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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    It may not grow as much right now but wait until 7.0 and we'll see a rise again, like with EW but that's just speculations.
    As for how the experience going to be like when we get brand new servers on a new DC, it's hard to say. It's been over a decade since we had brand new DC for EU playerbase and game has changed a lot since 2013.
    Of course there will be a rise with 7.0, and what once these people are disappointed and leave (which is bound to happen, it happens with every single mmo in the industry), what will happen to people on those servers ? They'll be left with a shell of a server and a completely dead datacenter, forced to go over to chaos or light to do any sort of content, why even have it in the first place ? To pretend that the game is full to the brim while it isnt outside of the new expansion release ? Is it really worth spreading the community even more on EU for that reason ? I dont think so
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Of course there will be a rise with 7.0, and what once these people are disappointed and leave (which is bound to happen, it happens with every single mmo in the industry), what will happen to people on those servers ?
    The dissapointment might be significantly less, since the peak might actualy get enough population going to take it to a satisfyable state. Those that would otherwise leave might therefor delay that action by quite some time.

    But it becomes better, since at expansion time the popular worlds are that much congested, that even if the DC has a lot of lag, it still is better because you can at least play. There is a good likelyness that a lot of players will DC travel to these, and then discover how good connections actualy are. Who knows how many people will stick to those DCs then?


    However, there is 1 thing that i think should be done to realy make it work even better. We alreay have a language selection for the duty finder, imagine also having DCs as an option in them. Then the base DC doesnt matter since for the duty it can enable a mixture of DCs. And especialy when the queues on 1 DC are quite empty, it can use the other DCs to assist. Which in practice means that the emptier DC will for a single duty place their players on a diffirent DC. In these duties there is no trading etc going on, so on that there is no full travel requirement anyway.

    Once queue times become normal regardless of DC, the DC choise wont hurt anymore. Either you have the further DC which is more populated, but face a constant situation of latecy. Or you have the close DC and end up with significantly less lag, unless player counts went low and you are now put to your old DC. At which point it doesnt hurt since at least being able to play is better than not being able at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Of course there will be a rise with 7.0, and what once these people are disappointed and leave (which is bound to happen, it happens with every single mmo in the industry), what will happen to people on those servers ? They'll be left with a shell of a server and a completely dead datacenter, forced to go over to chaos or light to do any sort of content, why even have it in the first place ? To pretend that the game is full to the brim while it isnt outside of the new expansion release ? Is it really worth spreading the community even more on EU for that reason ? I dont think so
    Valid points. What would you suggest then, to suspend any expansion plans for our region?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Valid points. What would you suggest then, to suspend any expansion plans for our region?
    Well that would be my opinion honestly, I just think and this is just my point of view, that the EU region doesnt have anywhere near enough players for an entirely new datacenter, we just don't, and there wont be any significant changes in population anytime soon aside from the peak with the new expansion which as I said is fair, but wont bring long term numbers to the new datacenter.

    Take in mind and take as example that the NA region, that has a LOT more players than us europeans, is barely managing 4 new worlds, 1 is pretty packed, and the other 3 are pretty close to ghost towns or at best Halicarnassus medium populated, leaving the last 2 in an extra low pop state.

    Now put us europeans, with barely 2 DC and 2 almost dead worlds (Raiden / Sagi) and imagine what would happen with 8 new worlds.

    Its just not realistic and they really should reconsider the plan for the new EU DC, they really should, for the sake of existing and future players.

    Quote Originally Posted by UkcsAlias View Post
    The dissapointment might be significantly less, since the peak might actualy get enough population going to take it to a satisfyable state. Those that would otherwise leave might therefor delay that action by quite some time.

    But it becomes better, since at expansion time the popular worlds are that much congested, that even if the DC has a lot of lag, it still is better because you can at least play. There is a good likelyness that a lot of players will DC travel to these, and then discover how good connections actualy are. Who knows how many people will stick to those DCs then?


    However, there is 1 thing that i think should be done to realy make it work even better. We alreay have a language selection for the duty finder, imagine also having DCs as an option in them. Then the base DC doesnt matter since for the duty it can enable a mixture of DCs. And especialy when the queues on 1 DC are quite empty, it can use the other DCs to assist. Which in practice means that the emptier DC will for a single duty place their players on a diffirent DC. In these duties there is no trading etc going on, so on that there is no full travel requirement anyway.

    Once queue times become normal regardless of DC, the DC choise wont hurt anymore. Either you have the further DC which is more populated, but face a constant situation of latecy. Or you have the close DC and end up with significantly less lag, unless player counts went low and you are now put to your old DC. At which point it doesnt hurt since at least being able to play is better than not being able at all.
    If I got it right, you are asking for cross DC duty finder, which I absolutely approve of and should have been a feature a long time ago already, honestly.
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 04-17-2023 at 09:21 PM.