"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

[Kyasunshine]

You can love the game without loving every person.

In fact, when you love the game, it just makes you more upset when you interact with people who ruin your experience.

'Cause I love this game. I smile when I'm having fun. But every time I run into an egotistical, self-centred, and/or grandstanding person, makes me not want to play.

You can enjoy things without enjoying every single aspect of it. It's really not that deep.

Got it.

But I also hope you understand that this is a slippery slope? What is meant by ego-centrism? The desire of the tank to fulfill its role?

Example. DPS does its part by dealing damage. The healer fulfills its role by replenishing health (and dealing damage). The size of the role of the tank is not so big in the end. Just pull mobs to do dps by hitting defensive abilities.

By taking away the role of pulling mobs from the tank, you are taking away what little fun is available to a person in this role.

Yes, they are not leaders. But we are talking about the game. We are talking about RPG. What is so bad if a person in the role of a tank wants to feel important?

I like to feel important as a tank. BUT. If I'm a healer, I feel that the tank is important and needs to be healed. If I am a DPS I feel that the tank is the one I should hide behind and deal damage.

RP guys. RP. Not your ERP lol. RP. Going into an uncharted cave will you put the healer at the front of the group? I doubt. I'm sure in any film there is always a man with a shield in front. Although....in the lord of the rings, Gandalf walked ahead heh. But I think this is more of an exception.

Don't know. I can't love the game. If it is not loved by those with whom I play it. I can't love fantasy where the party doesn't know how to play. PLAY. People hate DF so much and want to speedrun him. Terrible thing. Who knows if you do all the professions of level 90 you will become the same. But I sort of did ~6-7 and still enjoy the dungeons and can easily go through them slowly.

It's nice to know that in a given party that you would acknowledge what the majority of your party wants and go with that. What I fail to understand is why you do such but then say expecting people to work with what the majority wants is toxic. As far as I've ever been concerned, everyone has a say in the pace of the party and not simply the tank. Saying that the tank has sole jurisdiction over that is rude to three others. People are not toxic for voicing their preference nor are they toxic for recognizing that they are the majority in that small selection of 4 people. It's a single instance and it's not hard to work together to get it done.

Honestly the way you are discussing this matter it really sounds like you think the true toxic part is just having a disagreement at all.

The majority cannot agree with the minority? If there is a tank in the party who wants to do single pulls, I, being a healer, will support his decision. I want to go faster, but I like to think of the weak. I like to think from someone else's point of view. And force coercion only because I want to complete the dungeon faster. I think we understand that you need to be able to love random adventurers?