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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisi View Post
    Everybody who wants fierce beast-like lionesses, prepare to be disappointed!
    Sure they might change course in the future, but this is a big Moonkeeper.
    That's a lot of YIKES in one text. By the way you worded it it is clear to me that you want to make people angry. Beast doesn't equal masculine, it equals beast. And the devs said they don't care about how popular the race/gender is. They want to make it to add an option that is not there yet. If they make a Miquo'te 3.0, they would make a lot of people upset (myself included since I hate both Miquo'te and Au'Ra).

    Even if you are right with the sexyer body. I will be ok with that as long as at least 1 of the 4 faces has a muzzle.

    But, a modified fem roe body is my nr.1 most wanted choise ever since I saw a m*d on Twitter that created custom fem Hrothgar heads for fem roe bodies. And I was in love with the result! Can't m*d though cause SE said no...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pip_Chick View Post
    That's a lot of YIKES in one text. By the way you worded it it is clear to me that you want to make people angry.
    Ok, I will analyze you too in turn: It makes you angry because you know that even though I didn't give you hard evidence, what I mentioned is true. I am realistic about this and will be positively surprised when it turns out we get beastly Femhroths.

    Beast doesn't equal masculine, it equals beast.
    In extremely progressive spaces that is true, but in pop-culture in general there is a clear correllation between beastliness and masculinity. Here, let me give you the trials of FFXIV for example:

    More inhuman and beastly trial foes:

    Ifrit
    Leviathan
    Titan
    Bahamut
    Bismarck
    Ravana
    Nidhogg
    Sephirot
    Zurvan
    Susano
    Shinryu
    Hades
    Zodiark


    Gender-neutral Weapons (with sexy human-like Nael tho)

    More human-like trial foes:

    Odin
    Ramuh
    Shiva
    Garuda

    Thordan
    Sophia
    Lakshmi
    Byakko
    Suzaku
    Tsukuyomi

    Seiryu
    Titania
    Innocence
    Warrior of Light

    Hydaelyn
    Endsinger
    Barbariccia

    Rubicante

    And even among the more human-like entities beauty and sexiness is often reserved for the female ones.

    And the devs said they don't care about how popular the race/gender is. They want to make it to add an option that is not there yet. If they make a Miquo'te 3.0, they would make a lot of people upset (myself included since I hate both Miquo'te and Au'Ra).
    The devs say a lot of things at the end of the day and it's not like they haven't been ambiguous (ultimate will be delayed, cutting one ultimate wasn't said, but effectively happened) or outright wrong (housing for everyone) before. You can interpret into it what you like. But big Miqo'te is not yet in the game, no. That's like saying Au Ra and Miqo are the same.

    Even if you are right with the sexyer body. I will be ok with that as long as at least 1 of the 4 faces has a muzzle.
    So let's say three out of four faces are Miqo and one will be beastly? That's realistic I'd say. The helmets would then be designed with the muzzle in mind even for flat faces.

    But, a modified fem roe body is my nr.1 most wanted choise ever since I saw a m*d on Twitter that created custom fem Hrothgar heads for fem roe bodies. And I was in love with the result! Can't m*d though cause SE said no...
    It's very cute that you already play a female Hrothgar btw ♥.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Im just replying....well...repeating the same Jargon Ive said for years on this topic and speculation.
    I am needlessly Passionate about this and have snorted Hopium hardcore on this, because I have a Male Alt, but Id LOVE to make my Main a Female Hrothgar if the conditions are met.
    The wait for their reveal is killing me lol. And Id hate to lose all my love and trust in this game over the Gender/Sex of a stupid Playable Race Avatar.
    That's a good thing, but you gotta be realistic about the chances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisi View Post
    So let's say three out of four faces are Miqo and one will be beastly? That's realistic I'd say. The helmets would then be designed with the muzzle in mind even for flat faces.
    "Realistic" would be all four of them looking like the same species as each other and their male counterparts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    "Realistic" would be all four of them looking like the same species as each other and their male counterparts.
    Chances are realistic that there's gonna be one out of four faces that's beastlike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisi View Post
    That's a good thing, but you gotta be realistic about the chances.
    Its not Realistic to think they would create a Beast Race: just to half-ass it and make the Females Human looking.
    Its not realistic to think that People who actually want Female Hrothgar, would be ok with them being Human-looking.
    Its Not realistic to think making Miqote 2.0 is a good use of time or resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Its not Realistic to think they would create a Beast Race: just to half-ass it and make the Females Human looking.
    Its not realistic to think that People who actually want Female Hrothgar, would be ok with them being Human-looking.
    Its Not realistic to think making Miqote 2.0 is a good use of time or resources.
    Official artwork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisi View Post
    Official artwork.

    Ive had this argument with another person who fell back on this, and the Mural as Hard Evidence....
    My Counter-Argument....
    IF, these are what the Female Hrothgar are going to look like...why..Why...WHY are they NOT already in the game?
    If they already have their appearance made, if THIS is what they are suppose to look like. Then they are already done, they should have been added to the game YEARS ago.
    They should have been put into Shadowbringers. If not then, they should have been added in with the Male Viera in Endwalker.
    HECK, if this is how they are going to look, why did the Male Viera come out BEFORE Female Hrothgar? Female Hrothgar were already made!
    Also....we should have seen Female Hrothgar in Bozja.

    This argument doesn't hold up, or make any sense. To me, thats just a Miqote.
    If anything, this picture can just be early Concept art to just tease people. Just like the many different designs we saw of the Au Ra, and then they ended up DRASTICALLY Different then what we 1st saw.

    So no, the Mural, and this Picture in the Artbook, does not convince me that this is how they will look.


    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Surprised you're arguing with an obvious troll. You know for a fact this thread is going to get them because of the age old "furries bad, must troll!" nonsense that has been on the internet since the 00s and earlier. And every single time they make themselves really obvious that they're trolls.
    As I said before. Im just very, and needlessly Passionate about this Subject.
    So I guess Im easily baited (giggity) regardless if the person is a Troll or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Its not Realistic to think they would create a Beast Race: just to half-ass it and make the Females Human looking.
    Its not realistic to think that People who actually want Female Hrothgar, would be ok with them being Human-looking.
    Its Not realistic to think making Miqote 2.0 is a good use of time or resources.
    Surprised you're arguing with an obvious troll. You know for a fact this thread is going to get them because of the age old "furries bad, must troll!" nonsense that has been on the internet since the 00s and earlier. And every single time they make themselves really obvious that they're trolls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisi View Post
    More human-like trial foes:
    Endsinger
    If a floating head with wings is human-like to you, I have questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    If a floating head with wings is human-like to you, I have questions.
    Absolutely a beautiful human female head, yes. However I'll grant you Endsinger as "beastlike" if you count Thordan and Byakko too.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Surprised you're arguing with an obvious troll. You know for a fact this thread is going to get them because of the age old "furries bad, must troll!" nonsense that has been on the internet since the 00s and earlier. And every single time they make themselves really obvious that they're trolls.
    You are such a victim. Furries are cool and as I said I hope femhroths will be beast-like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    If anything, this picture can just be early Concept art to just tease people. Just like the many different designs we saw of the Au Ra, and then they ended up DRASTICALLY Different then what we 1st saw.
    Yes, I would view it as an early teaser of what's to come. And Female Au Ra are an argument in favor of my position of what is more likely that we'll get.
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