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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    That isn't merging, though – it's going back to the "old" narrative that Hydaelyn battled Zodiark with no mention of it ending in a philosophical clash between the factions.

    Merging the two would require actually talking about what happened when Hydaelyn and Zodiark fought each other while clearly connecting it to the allegorical cutscene, which they seem extremely averse to doing.

    Either they really did try to overwrite "the fight" with "Venat turned up at a meeting", or they've written it confusingly enough that a fair chunk of the audience feels like they did that, and either way they have made no attempt to explain or justify the discrepancy – not in further stories and not in interviews. They just avoid any explanation of it, which makes me feel like they don't actually have a good answer for how to reconcile the two.
    So right before that line I quoted from Tales of the Dawn earlier, there's another line that says: "Venat, along with the archivist and their like-minded companions, objected to this undertaking. The future, they believed, must not bear the cost for saving the past. Only in accepting pain and loss─by learning from the mistakes of yesterday─could they greet the morrow. A power such as Zodiark possessed was anathema to the progress of man."

    The chain of events from Tales of the Dawn doesn't directly match up with the allegorical cutscene we saw in EW, but I personally feel the writer of Tales of the Dawn at least attempted to include both reasons for the Sundering that we saw from ShB and EW. ShB had the clash between Zodiark and Hydaelyn as the primary cause of the Sundering, EW had Venat's philosophical reasons for the Sundering, and Tales of the Dawn mentions both.

    But you're right when you say "Merging the two would require actually talking about what happened when Hydaelyn and Zodiark fought each other while clearly connecting it to the allegorical cutscene." That would be the correct way of merging the two versions of the Sundering.


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    Somehow, the cause of the Sundering from ShB RETURNED!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    The chain of events from Tales of the Dawn doesn't directly match up with the allegorical cutscene we saw in EW, but I personally feel the writer of Tales of the Dawn at least attempted to include both reasons for the Sundering that we saw from ShB and EW. ShB had the clash between Zodiark and Hydaelyn as the primary cause of the Sundering, EW had Venat's philosophical reasons for the Sundering, and Tales of the Dawn mentions both.
    I still don't think that's adding anything new to the table. We knew since Shadowbringers that Hydaelyn was created by a faction philosophically opposed to Zodiark.
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