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    Player Ravenblade1979's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telkira View Post
    You say this in (what I hope is) in jest, yet there are people out there who genuinely believe this, that Japanese media is inherently 'problematic' and needs to be censored/watered down before it can be safely consumed by Western audiences.

    I find no respect for such people.
    ummm actually i do remember square making a final fantasy game that was complete trash because they didn't think the west could handle the jrpg as it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    ummm actually i do remember square making a final fantasy game that was complete trash because they didn't think the west could handle the jrpg as it was.
    Do tell, please.
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    Player Ravenblade1979's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telkira View Post
    Do tell, please.
    Final Fantasy Mystic Quest. it was basically a beginners tutorial to acrual jrpgs but meh was ok for what it was
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    Final Fantasy Mystic Quest. it was basically a beginners tutorial to acrual jrpgs but meh was ok for what it was
    I remember playing it on the Wii Virtual Console back when I was a kid... I don't remember much from it, but I do remember not enjoying it as much as other games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    ummm actually i do remember square making a final fantasy game that was complete trash because they didn't think the west could handle the jrpg as it was.
    13? 15? Both?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 View Post
    ummm actually i do remember square making a final fantasy game that was complete trash because they didn't think the west could handle the jrpg as it was.
    Not quite true. FFMQ was released in the USA in 1992, meaning they had already released both FF1 and "FF2" (actually FF4) by that time. FFMQ was specifically designed to be an "intro" to RPGs for people who weren't yet familiar with or into the genre, as a means of attracting a wider playerbase who might then go on to play their other RPG titles.

    JP gaming companies did have a lower opinion of Western gamers at the time, though, as the "FF2" they released overseas was an easier version of the one in Japan. You also have things like Nintendo making a completely separate "Super Mario Bros. 2" for release in the USA (actually a game from a completely different series converted) because they felt the actual SMB2 was too difficult for USA gamers. Also noteworthy, though, is that many games typically released first in JP, so JP gamers were more experienced, more into gaming culture, and it's not unreasonable to think they could "handle" harder games as a result, whereas a culture that was effectively a few years behind might not be "ready" for it yet.

    So why not go back and revise it for how it was then? The 'lovable pervert' trope is genuinely a fun and interesting trope, and falls in-line with a T-rating. Like I said before, there's more explicit speech in other games and media.
    This is a major /whoosh. The person pointed out that "all his dialogue since HW has been the same" - he's been dead since then. He has had no dialogue.
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