Are there any plans to fix the 'Haurchefant' localization?

[Telkira]

Could we get a source on that?

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...83#post3450983

"As the individual who pushed for these changes, I would like to sincerely apologize to our fans, as well as Yoshi-P and our scenario team. It was never my intention to deprive our players of a memorable character or elaborate cutscenes, and to this day I deeply regret how I handled this situation."

The fact that the person who ruined what would have otherwise been a better character (at least in *my* opinion) is a good thing.

I want them to consider going back and doing a proper re-implementation of the narrative assets, one that's not only consistent across all languages, but also true to the character's initial inception, if not outright having such a preference be respected as an option in the Settings menu.

[Boblawblah]

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...83#post3450983

"As the individual who pushed for these changes, I would like to sincerely apologize to our fans, as well as Yoshi-P and our scenario team. It was never my intention to deprive our players of a memorable character or elaborate cutscenes, and to this day I deeply regret how I handled this situation."

Thanks for the source!

damn, I'm so glad they weren't able to ruin English Haurchefant, he was so good. Thank God for that reckless localization team.

[RyuDragnier]

[Atelier-Bagur]

No because a lot of people like how he is characterized already compared to a raging horn dog that only cared about you because he wanted to get in your pants?

I dont get why so many people are adamant about Japanese Haurchefaunt. His original personality just wasnt that well written, he was a walking inappropriate archetype that frankly the west wouldnt have found as appealing. They'd either find it mildly amusing or completely turned off, especially to a character we're actually supposed to take seriously.

[Telkira]

i chalk it up to being bull headed and not budging. has totally ignored me because has no actual way to fight back. so picks easy to fight stuff.

Literally all you did was insult me and misrepresent my arguments as "forcing JP values" when what I'm arguing for is the preservation of artistic and literary integrity, something that's conducive to a consistent vision that remains true to the original vision. The localization overall does a decent job at remaining true to that, but these types of deliberate and problematic deviations from the 'true' version serve no purpose but to satisfy insecurity with this type of trope not being popular with Western audiences.

I want it fixed/corrected, so that way anyone who chooses to play the game with JP cutscene audio can have an experience that's actually representative of the true product and not revisionism designed to pander to people like you.

no. i just tend to rewrite stuff but good try on accusing me of being wrong. im frankly not the idiot here. here is what is going on. YOU want to force jp values on the whole world because you are horny to see og haurchefant. Which, as i stated, they could have easily done once the apology was made but again....they didn't do it. the current version is just fine. I am also well aware of the court kitty used in one fate in costa del sol. didn't know a lala one existed but cool must have come and exited my mind because its a npc. Laughably your argument was for lalafell...not miqo or any other race. I literally can point to npcs in varying places that are dressed lewd...doesn't mean thats their intent does it.

Again...THE COMMUNITY SEXUALIZED LALAFELL. like are you genuinely this stupid or just a bored troll? You have no actual argument that you have presented to any of us. just your overall opinion that people seem to not like and you seem to somehow take offense to that and use anything you can find to push your pov. it won't work. give it up. this idea will never happen. this conversation is long since over.

Again.. you're wrong. The game deliberately sexualizes them, they are adults and the game treats them as such. You blatantly ignoring that fact is not my problem.

Also it's not a matter of opinion. You have no real argument or rebuttal that isn't insults, fallacies, flames, etc. Literally everything in my OP and my subsequent posts have some level of fact to them.

"But he's problematic!!"
"But I like him dis way!!"

Seriously, none of these are valid rebuttals to anything. I want him fixed, and would like SE to properly rectify the issue. I've suggested a way for them to do that. You never even addressed my earlier rebuttal to your assertion that a proper translation of the JP script wouldn't suffice because things can be "lost in translation" when those things can be dealt with on a case-by-case basis without compromising the intent of the original writer.

[Telkira]

No because a lot of people like how he is characterized already compared to a raging horn dog that only cared about you because he wanted to get in your pants?

I dont get why so many people are adamant about Japanese Haurchefaunt. His original personality just wasnt that well written, he was a walking inappropriate archetype that frankly the west wouldnt have found as appealing. They'd either find it mildly amusing or completely turned off, especially to a character we're actually supposed to take seriously.

See this type of argument makes sense but is addressable.

The character is not defined solely by his desire to get into the WoL's pants, he still does so much for you in the story and is largely the same. His sexual attitudes are there to serve as comedic relief which actually helps put the more serious aspects of the narrative and setting into question, if not just outright humorous. This falls more in-line with mere opinion. I see the value in that, and you would likely as well if you were given that and not this joke. I felt VERY uncomfortable by him being a 'bro' because it felt genuinely out-of-place. It just didn't feel right.

[Ravenblade1979]

See this type of argument makes sense but is addressable.

The character is not defined solely by his desire to get into the WoL's pants, he still does so much for you in the story and is largely the same. His sexual attitudes are there to serve as comedic relief which actually helps put the more serious aspects of the narrative and setting into question, if not just outright humorous. This falls more in-line with mere opinion. I see the value in that, and you would likely as well if you were given that and not this joke. I felt VERY uncomfortable by him being a 'bro' because it felt genuinely out-of-place. It just didn't feel right.

oh wow...you were uncomfortable with him as he is now so you want to force a whole countries values on the rest of the world and make them feel uncomfortable.

lol ok now im done. just had to say this final thing. good luck with your lunacy.

[Telkira]

oh wow...you were uncomfortable with him as he is now so you want to force a whole countries values on the rest of the world and make them feel uncomfortable.

Do you even know what the phrase 'artistic and literary integrity' means? You seem keen on mischaracterizing me as 'forcing' values on someone else, when that's further from the truth. Those who are uncomfortable by such things can just not be bothered by it and learn to think critically/objectively and take it for what it is, or not consume it.
That way those who can/do appreciate it for what it is don't have to constantly worry about SE pandering to those who would more than likely consume it all the same, which is why I brought up the other 'problematic' elements of the game (which you made sure to accuse the playerbase of doing, rather than SE).

[Fawkes]

The character is not defined solely by his desire to get into the WoL's pants, he still does so much for you in the story and is largely the same. His sexual attitudes are there to serve as comedic relief which actually helps put the more serious aspects of the narrative and setting into question, if not just outright humorous. This falls more in-line with mere opinion. I see the value in that, and you would likely as well if you were given that and not this joke. I felt VERY uncomfortable by him being a 'bro' because it felt genuinely out-of-place. It just didn't feel right.

We also miss out on characterization for other characters, like when Haurchefant's innuendo goes completely over Alphinaud's head.

[Fredco191]

While it would be neat to have Haurchefant flirting with my character in English, I don't mind that they changed his dialogue. It's my headcanon that Haurchefant still felt the same way in the English localization, but was just keeping things professional.