Are there any plans to fix the 'Haurchefant' localization?

[Espon]

I'll bite.

They will never "fix" Haurchefant. Believe it or not, but localization does not just consist of translating every word-for-word, but also making changes to jokes, dialogue, and characterization so that it becomes more suitable for other languages and cultures. What might be fine in Japan could come off as offensive to those the West, so it's safer to just change things. I don't personally care either way, but I feel that there are less people out there complaining about Haurchefant's change of character than those that would of been complaining if the dude was constantly making suggestive comments and trying to get into your character's pants.

And Haurchefant wasn't killed off because they made a mistake and wanted to write out the character, he was killed off because he was planned on being killed off from the beginning.

[SeiyaSoiya]

I'll bite.

They will never "fix" Haurchefant. Believe it or not, but localization does not just consist of translating every word-for-word, but also making changes to jokes, dialogue, and characterization so that it becomes more suitable for other languages and cultures. What might be fine in Japan could come off as offensive to those the West, so it's safer to just change things. I don't personally care either way, but I feel that there are less people out there complaining about Haurchefant's change of character than those that would of been complaining if the dude was constantly making suggestive comments and trying to get into your character's pants.

And Haurchefant wasn't killed off because they made a mistake and wanted to write out the character, he was killed off because he was planned on being killed off from the beginning.

the only people who are professionally qualified to dictate what is appropriate for a culture are licensed journalists, who are taught to be the gatekeepers of information for a country or community
translators have no business being journalists.

[Telkira]

the only people who are professionally qualified to dictate what is appropriate for a culture are licensed journalists, who are taught to be the gatekeepers of information for a country or community
translators have no business being journalists.

You say this in (what I hope is) in jest, yet there are people out there who genuinely believe this, that Japanese media is inherently 'problematic' and needs to be censored/watered down before it can be safely consumed by Western audiences.

I find no respect for such people.

[Ravenblade1979]

You say this in (what I hope is) in jest, yet there are people out there who genuinely believe this, that Japanese media is inherently 'problematic' and needs to be censored/watered down before it can be safely consumed by Western audiences.

I find no respect for such people.

ummm actually i do remember square making a final fantasy game that was complete trash because they didn't think the west could handle the jrpg as it was.

[Telkira]

ummm actually i do remember square making a final fantasy game that was complete trash because they didn't think the west could handle the jrpg as it was.

Do tell, please.

[Ravenblade1979]

Do tell, please.

Final Fantasy Mystic Quest. it was basically a beginners tutorial to acrual jrpgs but meh was ok for what it was

[Telkira]

Final Fantasy Mystic Quest. it was basically a beginners tutorial to acrual jrpgs but meh was ok for what it was

I remember playing it on the Wii Virtual Console back when I was a kid... I don't remember much from it, but I do remember not enjoying it as much as other games.

[Nyxs]

ummm actually i do remember square making a final fantasy game that was complete trash because they didn't think the west could handle the jrpg as it was.

13? 15? Both?

[Striker44]

ummm actually i do remember square making a final fantasy game that was complete trash because they didn't think the west could handle the jrpg as it was.

Not quite true. FFMQ was released in the USA in 1992, meaning they had already released both FF1 and "FF2" (actually FF4) by that time. FFMQ was specifically designed to be an "intro" to RPGs for people who weren't yet familiar with or into the genre, as a means of attracting a wider playerbase who might then go on to play their other RPG titles.

JP gaming companies did have a lower opinion of Western gamers at the time, though, as the "FF2" they released overseas was an easier version of the one in Japan. You also have things like Nintendo making a completely separate "Super Mario Bros. 2" for release in the USA (actually a game from a completely different series converted) because they felt the actual SMB2 was too difficult for USA gamers. Also noteworthy, though, is that many games typically released first in JP, so JP gamers were more experienced, more into gaming culture, and it's not unreasonable to think they could "handle" harder games as a result, whereas a culture that was effectively a few years behind might not be "ready" for it yet.

So why not go back and revise it for how it was then? The 'lovable pervert' trope is genuinely a fun and interesting trope, and falls in-line with a T-rating. Like I said before, there's more explicit speech in other games and media.

This is a major /whoosh. The person pointed out that "all his dialogue since HW has been the same" - he's been dead since then. He has had no dialogue.

[Nessun]

the only people who are professionally qualified to dictate what is appropriate for a culture are licensed journalists, who are taught to be the gatekeepers of information for a country or community
translators have no business being journalists.

What on earth is a "licensed journalist" ?????