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    What is so bad about removing the reset timer? that you can do 8 levequests pretty much non stop. Pretty much making levequests into what FOV pages are now in ffxi.

    PPl wanted the timer removed from fov pages, but want a longer reset timer in ffxiv. Sorry still confused by all this.

    Also levequests are just fields of valor pages just with stuff added to the. It is still grinding mobs to level. Why not just take away the added stuff (minus the mob claim) and just make them into FOV pages. each camp has 5 pages and you do them 1 at a time non stop.

    PPL liked them in ffxi, why they hate them here?
    My brain hurts.... ; ; too confused.
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    Last edited by Kilta_Firelotus; 03-30-2011 at 09:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    this games was targeted for the casuals. And he does have a point. Just killing a mob for just the sake of randoming killing a mob got boring in ffxi. More so since ppl stop chatting in parties and only cared about exp/hr.

    But also FOV pages are pretty much levequests. Just minus the claimed mobs and Item rewards.

    I'm no casual player, but I have ADD. I tend to get bored quick if something isn't fun or has a point. Even if its a small point. I was happy when FOV was added. I felt like I was doing something then just killing a mob for sake of killing it. It kept me on track and it helped me figure out the best places to solo if I needed to.

    Alot of ppl like fov pages in ffxi.
    FOV is different from Levequests on so many different levels. With Fov, you don't get 800+ per kill. You also don't play for only an hour then logout because you have no other way of leveling for another day and a half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun_Anam View Post
    I think the 36 reset timer is spot on. I've only missed one leve reset since the game started (was on christmas day) and I play on average 7-8 hours per day.

    If anything, I'd rather see the reset timer go to 48 hours than 24 hours.
    Ok, what I am about to say to you and others is by no means to disrespect you guys. It's just purely my oppinion. ^^

    You guys need to just get out of the house a little. I know some of you guys are still kids(10-18yrs) but still you guys can par take in some other productive extra curricular activities. I just think you guys need to stop play this or any game 7-8 hrs a day. That's a little too extreme ? Don't you guys think?

    If you guys played 3-4hrs a day max..then you guys would see that 48hr timer would probably the perfect one to go with. Just my $0.02
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    What is so bad about removing the reset timer? that you can do 8 levequests pretty much non stop. Pretty much making levequests into what FOV pages are now in ffxi.

    PPl wanted the timer removed from fov pages, but want a longer reset timer in ffxiv. Sorry still confused by all this.

    Also levequests are just fields of valor pages just with stuff added to the. It is still grinding mobs to level. Why not just take away the added stuff (minus the mob claim) and just make them into FOV pages. each camp has 5 pages and you do them 1 at a time non stop.

    PPL liked them in ffxi, why they hate them here?
    My brain hurts.... ; ; too confused.
    leves = / = FoV.
    FFXIV= / = FFXI.

    Dont know why is so hard to understand.
    just answering your question.
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    As far as your comment on not enough people leve linking...that's ALL people do.
    What? Reading comprehension isn't useless, you know. It may even teach you something.

    People leve-link too much, because the SP you gain from linking is too high. People need to share their leves, not link them. That is the problem and why people won't allow you to "leech". Sharing should be the norm, right now it is not. There is a problem with the leve system, yet once that is tackled there is no need for silly monster grinding mechanics. Deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    FOV is different from Levequests on so many different levels. With Fov, you don't get 800+ per kill. You also don't play for only an hour then logout because you have no other way of leveling for another day and a half.
    ummm lol.... yes you can Even done dominion in ffxi? which was aby styled levequests. on a good day with lights mob kills reached pretty high.

    And I'm curious how are they different?
    Fov you get a page saying you gotta kill 3 gobs 4 leeches
    you kill those three gobs and 4 leeches you get about 120 exp per mob plus 400 exp on completing fov page plus 400 gil and 40 tabs.
    (ffxi had a exp increase)

    levequest
    you get a guildleve which ima guess you get a mini quest box story thing. but really its just saying for you to go out and kill x mob and x mob.
    you kill the mobs you get sp gil and possible an item reward.

    so point out the differences? So far the core is the same.

    the only reason levequests are on a timer is because of rmt might abuse them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zkieve View Post
    leves = / = FoV.
    FFXIV= / = FFXI.

    Dont know why is so hard to understand.
    just answering your question.
    expain how they are different. So far after comparing the 2 they are infact the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    levequests are still monster grinding, just with a point.
    Same for WoW with kill quests. You still killing mobs for exp just getting the added bonus of exp from completing a quest.

    So monster grinding will never go away. Its just in different forms.

    I agree with you here, but you should have stated it differently:

    Quests are the exact same thing as monster grinding, except that someone is telling you what and how many to kill. Sorry "quest fans"... I don't need some pixels telling me which other pixels to kill...I can figure that out on my own, thank you very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    expain how they are different. So far after comparing the 2 they are infact the same.
    If you played FFXIV you would know . Everyone playing telling you they arent the same . yet you who dont play keep saying we are wrong.

    Im not gonna waste my time explaining every detail to you if you cant even admit you have no idea what your talking bout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    ummm lol.... yes you can Even done dominion in ffxi? which was aby styled levequests. on a good day with lights mob kills reached pretty high.

    And I'm curious how are they different?
    Fov you get a page saying you gotta kill 3 gobs 4 leeches
    you kill those three gobs and 4 leeches you get about 120 exp per mob plus 400 exp on completing fov page plus 400 gil and 40 tabs.
    (ffxi had a exp increase)

    levequest
    you get a guildleve which ima guess you get a mini quest box story thing. but really its just saying for you to go out and kill x mob and x mob.
    you kill the mobs you get sp gil and possible an item reward.

    so point out the differences? So far the core is the same.

    the only reason levequests are on a timer is because of rmt might abuse them.
    Abyssea...lol the fall of FFXI anyway

    Fov = 120 per kill with a 400exp reward. 7 x 120 + 400 = 1,240 exp. Gil reward = 400.

    Leve quest = 800 per kill. Let's say you need 15 mobs plus the 2 extra mobs. 17 x 800 = 13,600sp. Gil reward = between 3k and 30k. Likely item reward as well.

    See how they are different? Isn't it obvious?

    People log in, do their leves in an hour and log out. There goes the community...
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