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    Man, the amount of people using "logic" to only throw it out the window...

    Then there are the people saying they'll only start releasing only 1 new job to maybe none. Bruhhhhhhhhh, have you played this game? There's nothing actually new to play other than new jobs in a new expansion.

    Anyway, using actual logic, the new jobs will most likely be a Caster and Tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aluja89 View Post
    Man, the amount of people using "logic" to only throw it out the window...

    Then there are the people saying they'll only start releasing only 1 new job to maybe none. Bruhhhhhhhhh, have you played this game? There's nothing actually new to play other than new jobs in a new expansion.

    Anyway, using actual logic, the new jobs will most likely be a Caster and Tank.
    You're going to have to elaborate on your logic. Those pointing out why the likelihood of the next job being a melee, and the fact that the next expansion will only release one job are breaking things down to the grain. All you're doing is stating your opinion along with, "Bruuuuuh, have you even played this game?" Is that the extent of your logic?

    Quote Originally Posted by VentVanitas View Post
    what? is going by the in-game menu splitting hairs?

    If going by the in-game menu, then you can clearly see how unbalanced the roles are. What exactly is your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    You're going to have to elaborate on your logic. Those pointing out why the likelihood of the next job being a melee, and the fact that the next expansion will only release one job are breaking things down to the grain. All you're doing is stating your opinion along with, "Bruuuuuh, have you even played this game?" Is that the extent of your logic?


    Elaborate what? It's pretty clear what I'm saying.

    People keep listing the new jobs per expansion and saying how they can clearly see a pattern, only to completely ignore the pattern they themselves listed and mentioned.

    ARR:Healer, Caster, Melee
    HW:Tank, Healer, Ranged
    SB:Melee, Caster
    SHB:Tank, Ranged
    EW:Melee, Healer
    7.0:Let's ignore the pattern because scouting doesn't have another job

    I haven't seen any explanation worthwhile to consider removing new jobs from expansions, new jobs have always been the highlight of new expansions because they haven't added or done anything else. Let's say they do remove it, then what would they market instead? Even if they drop it to one new job, that job would always have to be a DPS by Yoshida's own words, this would slowly kill raiding because healers and tanks will slowly stop playing if they get nothing new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aluja89 View Post
    Elaborate what? It's pretty clear what I'm saying.

    People keep listing the new jobs per expansion and saying how they can clearly see a pattern, only to completely ignore the pattern they themselves listed and mentioned.

    ARR:Healer, Caster, Melee
    HW:Tank, Healer, Ranged
    SB:Melee, Caster
    SHB:Tank, Ranged
    EW:Melee, Healer
    Where's the pattern here? What you're saying is not clear, especially when you say, "Bruuuh, do you even play this game?" That is what I'm saying to you.

    7.0:Let's ignore the pattern because scouting doesn't have another job

    I haven't seen any explanation worthwhile to consider removing new jobs from expansions, new jobs have always been the highlight of new expansions because they haven't added or done anything else. Let's say they do remove it, then what would they market instead? Even if they drop it to one new job, that job would always have to be a DPS by Yoshida's own words, this would slowly kill raiding because healers and tanks will slowly stop playing if they get nothing new.
    Again, what pattern? Your wording is also poor because jobs are never removed upon expansion release. No job has been removed from FFXIV ever, nor will this ever happen. I'm not a numbskull though, and I know what you mean, and what you mean is no additions to jobs in new expansions. The lack of another job that uses Scouting gear is only one of many valid statements supporting the addition of another melee job coming in 7.0. Whether or not you deem someone's comments worthy has no bearing whatsoever, especially if you can't come up with valid counter arguments of your own, which you still have yet to do. You seem to be farming for likes more than anything, but that's just my personal opinion. Based on observation, of course.

    New jobs are a highlight for a new expansion but they are not the only thing that sales them. Players love to continue the MSQ (especially when sitting on the current cliffhanger), they want to see the changes to their favorite [existing] jobs, new cities and zones, new NPCs, dungeons, and trials. The new tribes and quests, the list goes on, bub. If new jobs are the only thing you look forward to with all the content that comes with the release of an entire expansion, I honestly pity you. That's pretty sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Where's the pattern here? What you're saying is not clear, especially when you say, "Bruuuh, do you even play this game?" That is what I'm saying to you.


    Again, what pattern? Your wording is also poor because jobs are never removed upon expansion release. No job has been removed from FFXIV ever, nor will this ever happen. I'm not a numbskull though, and I know what you mean, and what you mean is no additions to jobs in new expansions. The lack of another job that uses Scouting gear is only one of many valid statements supporting the addition of another melee job coming in 7.0. Whether or not you deem someone's comments worthy has no bearing whatsoever, especially if you can't come up with valid counter arguments of your own, which you still have yet to do. You seem to be farming for likes more than anything, but that's just my personal opinion. Based on observation, of course.

    New jobs are a highlight for a new expansion but they are not the only thing that sales them. Players love to continue the MSQ (especially when sitting on the current cliffhanger), they want to see the changes to their favorite [existing] jobs, new cities and zones, new NPCs, dungeons, and trials. The new tribes and quests, the list goes on, bub. If new jobs are the only thing you look forward to with all the content that comes with the release of an entire expansion, I honestly pity you. That's pretty sad.
    I'm so confused...? Someone please let me know if my wording is as poor as she claims.

    This Pattern.
    ARR:Melee, Healer, Caster
    HW:Tank, Healer, Ranged
    SB:Melee, Caster
    SHB:Tank, Ranged
    EW:Melee, Healer

    Farming likes? What am I gonna do with likes? I don't control who likes my posts.

    As for the "gameplay" additions you mentioned, literally nothing new, just a new coat of paint. New jobs are the only new things we can interact with. I agree, it is sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aluja89 View Post
    I'm so confused...? Someone please let me know if my wording is as poor as she claims.

    This Pattern.
    ARR:Melee, Healer, Caster
    HW:Tank, Healer, Ranged
    SB:Melee, Caster
    SHB:Tank, Ranged
    EW:Melee, Healer

    Farming likes? What am I gonna do with likes? I don't control who likes my posts.

    As for the "gameplay" additions you mentioned, literally nothing new, just a new coat of paint. New jobs are the only new things we can interact with. I agree, it is sad.
    that person is like talking to a wall just ignore them. theres very obvious pattern in that they do not do the same role 2 xpacs in a row. by that we are sure next xpac will 100% not be a healer or melee dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aluja89 View Post
    I'm so confused...? Someone please let me know if my wording is as poor as she claims.

    This Pattern.
    ARR:Melee, Healer, Caster
    HW:Tank, Healer, Ranged
    SB:Melee, Caster
    SHB:Tank, Ranged
    EW:Melee, Healer

    Farming likes? What am I gonna do with likes? I don't control who likes my posts.

    As for the "gameplay" additions you mentioned, literally nothing new, just a new coat of paint. New jobs are the only new things we can interact with. I agree, it is sad.
    I think this is more of a case of seeing the pattern you want to see.
    Can you say the same thing about Healers and Casters for example?

    Other people would sooner group Tanks and Healers together than Tanks and Melee, and we went one expansion with neither of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    I think this is more of a case of seeing the pattern you want to see.
    Can you say the same thing about Healers and Casters for example?

    Other people would sooner group Tanks and Healers together than Tanks and Melee, and we went one expansion with neither of them.
    I mean, it's literally there so I could say the same to you for ignoring it. The melee+tank job has always been used as a marketing tool each new expansion I don't see it changing any time soon, as we've seen how rigid they are developing for this game.

    I can say the same for healers, because we only had WHM in 1.0 it obviously needed more jobs so we got SCH and AST back to back, this is also the reason healers skipped an expansion. Caster is in its predicted rotation.

    We went one expansion with no healer or tank and hell ensued but this was more because we stopped getting 3 new jobs and we were promised they'd never do it again and it hasn't happened nor will it IMO.
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