Thavnair verges on white savior tropes and presents a caricature of South Asians

[PredatoryCatgirl]

iwhich means this leaves maybe thancred and urianger as the only closest thing to white saviors since the twins are largely absent from thavnair nonsense but they're given a free pass since they're two gay husbands teaching their adopted lesbian daughter to stab things with knives and date goth chicks.

I just want to say I lol'd hard at this. You have a talent with words, sir/ma'am.

[TitanMenII]

This is literally Titanmen arguing with his own alt, why are you guys feeding this dude ? He's literally the worst troll on the forums. Stop giving him attention

Ugh okay, I noticed you have a tendency to describe anyone as a troll. Trying to silence minorities are you?

[Antharaes]

This is literally Titanmen arguing with his own alt, why are you guys feeding this dude ? He's literally the worst troll on the forums. Stop giving him attention

Because I am bored, waiting for a render to finish. Cleaned my house, done the shopping, laundry all done...so am just twiddling my thumbs.

[IckeDerTyp]

Fantastic~

I missed these ALOT!

[Kes13a]

Although I understand that Final Fantasy XIV draws inspiration from a variety of cultures in the real world, I find the depiction of Thavnair in the newest expansion to be highly problematic. As a person of color, I feel uncomfortable with the level of cultural appropriation present in this creation, despite being aware that Japanese culture can often be insensitive to such issues.

My concerns about Thavnair are twofold. Firstly, the accents of many Thavnairians appear to be based on a stereotypical Indian accent, which in no way resembles the way in which typical Indians speak. The fact that Matsya's voice actor does not appear to be Indian is also concerning, as it suggests that a Westerner is responsible for perpetuating these stereotypes.

Secondly, the story seems to have an underlying white savior complex, with the light-skinned, blue-eyed Scions rescuing the Thavnairians from the Final Days. This trope is problematic as it perpetuates the "noble savage" stereotype that has been problematic in the past. Nidhana's portrayal as an Other who possesses a mystical force of nature reinforces this stereotype. Additionally, the Scions' appropriation of Nidhana's culture to identify dynamis and save the day further contributes to the problem.

While Square Enix has portrayed Thavnair in a generally respectful manner, the underlying tones of cultural appropriation and insensitivity to postcolonial discourse and ethics are still present. I hope that the company will become more sensitive to these issues in the future when portraying different cultures in the game.

"as a person of colour" you are not representing your own words very well since your character seems to be very...shall we say.. white. which part of the hypocritic colour scale are you a part of

nice trolling but you really need better material. slow week on 4chan or reddit?

[RobynDaBank]

"as a person of colour" you are not representing your own words very well since your character seems to be very...shall we say.. white. which part of the hypocritic colour scale are you a part of

nice trolling but you really need better material. slow week on 4chan or reddit?

Eh, I'm Indian but my character is bordering on albino. Don't think it's representative of anything.

Also what happened to your forum account called "Hindu", OP? Mix up your stuff?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

This is literally Titanmen arguing with his own alt, why are you guys feeding this dude ? He's literally the worst troll on the forums. Stop giving him attention

Wow you really have come around lol. I guess after one of his usual deluges of troll threads it's hard not to see.

[Seraphor]

I know this is a troll but what the hell.

If they didn't implement certain stereotypes such as an Indian (-like) accent and south asian architecture, then they'd be accused of appropriating south asian culture without representing them. Imagine if all of Thavnair was populated by ginger haired Caucasians with Welsh accents, but still kept the geography, ecosystem and designs/textiles? How much more insulting would that be?

[QiyoJoyo]

I once asked, what you people have against TitanMen.

I got my answer in this thread. I think i finally understand some of you.

[TitanMenII]

Dude/dudette, you know what....have it your way. We have cats, giants, elves, talking elephants and you go on about real life issues. Have a nice life and welcome to my ignore list. You'd be pleased to know, that you are the first, so number 1 on the list.

I thought the far right cares about free speech and abhors cancel culture? What a hypocritical way to censor someone.