Ranked is mega unpopular even though it offers the same rewards as Unranked

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

You know what casuals want from CC? To be done with Series quickly.
If you want casuals to be back into ranked, slash Casual CC Series Exp to half, and make that each tier of Ranked gives more exp as you climb.

Bad idea. All this does is punish casual pvpers who prefer to stay in a casual setting by shoehorning them into Ranked. That is not only how you "don't" promote ranked, this is how you alienate casual players.

It also doesn't adress the abyssmally small amount of series EXP frontlines gives for the time investment per match required.

If you want to promote Ranked, add something unique to Ranked, it is that bloody simple. It can be a good tier reward or ranked currency.

[Balmung_Griffin]

Bad idea. All this does is punish casual pvpers who prefer to stay in a casual setting by shoehorning them into Ranked. That is not only how you "don't" promote ranked, this is how you alienate casual players.

It also doesn't adress the abyssmally small amount of series EXP frontlines gives for the time investment per match required.

If you want to promote Ranked, add something unique to Ranked, it is that bloody simple. It can be a good tier reward or ranked currency.

The moment you put something meaningful exclusive to ranked is the moment casuals will cry out foul, and for this very reason they virtually removed all rewards for ranked.

Maybe don't slash Exp from casual, but make ranked more worthwhile exp wise.

[Ransu]

How u do it?

By running away... Use LOS to your advantage. Use repelling shot to root them and get some easy casted shots in and continue to back away and kite/los and pop Warden's Paean to remove afflictions and get the damage reduction from it whenever necessary. Rinse and repeat.

[Eisi]

The moment you put something meaningful exclusive to ranked is the moment casuals will cry out foul, and for this very reason they virtually removed all rewards for ranked.

Maybe don't slash Exp from casual, but make ranked more worthwhile exp wise.

I disagree with this. If you give meaningful rewards to ranked, players will be like: Oh, ok! Maybe one day I will get into ranked and get those rewards! Just like how I still wanna get Juedi even tho I never reached floor 100 of HoH. I still wanna get a glass pumpkin earring too, it doesn't run away even tho it's locked behind daunting content.

Now if you make them timelimited exclusives, like the series rewards, that's how you make players feel forced to engage. Or if you make them not achieveable by everyone at the same time theoretically.

If ranked provides more exp players will abandon unranked. The same could of course be said about ranked exclusive rewards in general.

That's why I'm for evergreen ranked rewards exclusive to platinum+ victories. Since ranked only provides additional rewards for higher tier victories, players who wanna play unranked will still find matches, just like 21-30 of HoH is still run even tho the big rewards are for reaching floor 100.

[Osmond]

Adding a exp buff to rank won't solve the problem to get ppl back in rank. The exclusive rewards on rank won't solve the problem either. It's a re-occuring solution ppl continue to bring up and it NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER WORK!!! STOP BRINGING IT UP!!! In time, it's fine as it is. They just need to create more modes and maps with gimmicks, that's all.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

The moment you put something meaningful exclusive to ranked is the moment casuals will cry out foul, and for this very reason they virtually removed all rewards for ranked.

Maybe don't slash Exp from casual, but make ranked more worthwhile exp wise.

The hypothetical casuals we are talking about were the ones that insisted that ranked players and casual players both getting something cool is mutually exclusive, because of the big great boogieman "McWintradingston" ruining everything somehow, something which would be harder to pull off if there were more players by promoting it properly, so I'm not buying it.

Someone in the forum posted something in the likes of this - "If you ask for something because someone else got something, I can reason with you. But to deny someone else what they want just so they can't have it makes you deserve nothing." Quite frankly I vibe with that, which is why I was always cool with Casuals getting cool stuff and glamour, but not by taking everything from Ranked.

Anyhow, again. It doesn't matter if you slash Series EXP from Casual or boosting it for ranked, all it does is put emphasis on grinding things out in Ranked, which is unnecessary stress for Casual-only players. They will be disadvantaged not doing it, creating a lessened user experience.

It also does virtually nothing every second Ranked season because a Series lasts two seasons. It also doesn't benefit anything promoting it the long run, given how... lacking the Trophy Crystal vendor is right now.

The problem we are facing is a general lack of participation stemming from having no reason to engage with Ranked. In Feast era, there was at least Top 100 and at least some seasonal activity with Wolf Collars, but role queue made it difficult to get into it. Now we are facing the opposite - there is virtually nothing in every skill tier (Bronze etc.) that you can't get playing Casual and there is nothing to even strive for at high level PvP other than playing the game more coordinated. And boy is it, and frequent too. It is very accessible unlike feast.

TL;DR:
Ranked needs promotion via exclusive currency (non-FOMO before you ask) in all skill tiers first and foremost
Casual needs nothing.
Frontlines / RW needs Series EXP boost analogue to time spent.
Battle Pass maybe needs some additional goodies sprinkled in OR Trophy Crystal Vendor needs slightly less jarring glamour + worthwhile Trophy Crystal sink (Relic glow-like Hellhound weapons? Glowing PvP armour upgrades?)

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Adding a exp buff to rank won't solve the problem to get ppl back in rank. The exclusive rewards on rank won't solve the problem either. It's a re-occuring solution ppl continue to bring up and it NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER WORK!!! STOP BRINGING IT UP!!! In time, it's fine as it is. They just need to create more modes and maps with gimmicks, that's all.

My brother in Christ, you are acting childish spamming capslock like this.

It also doesnt add any credibility insisting "it wont work" when it wasnt tried properly in this era of PvP, thanks to people like you insisting that it somehow mustn't happen.

Modes and gimmicks only get you so far, look at Criterion.

[Osmond]

My brother in Christ, you are acting childish spamming capslock like this.

It also doesnt add any credibility insisting "it wont work" when it wasnt tried properly in this era of PvP, thanks to people like you insisting that it somehow mustn't happen.

Modes and gimmicks only get you so far, look at Criterion.

DANG RIGHT, GET MAD SOME MORE!!!

It doesn't work, ppl ask that for months and months and it doesn't work. It's insanity at that point....

[Towa-Musa]

DANG RIGHT, GET MAD SOME MORE!!!

It doesn't work, ppl ask that for months and months and it doesn't work. It's insanity at that point....

rather then rewards for ranked or better exp, just focus on making fun modes and maps instead.

[Osmond]

rather then rewards for ranked or better exp, just focus on making fun modes and maps instead.

That's what I'm considering you know... I'm for that than exp buffs. Getting better rewards doesn't make the content fun.