DARKLIGHT GEARS ; ;

[Yves]

I just kind of view this as the "race for gear" concept. Everyone wants it NOW and it can be frustrating to constantly repeat something for no return. But, at the same time, what else is there to do? Most of us are stretching to play the game for more than a couple hours at a time. I'm not complaining but the game is going to lose even more people from lack of content than lack of drops. If anything, this is another irritating timesink but oh wells.

[Richard_BG]

I just kind of view this as the "race for gear" concept. Everyone wants it NOW and it can be frustrating to constantly repeat something for no return. But, at the same time, what else is there to do? Most of us are stretching to play the game for more than a couple hours at a time. I'm not complaining but the game is going to lose even more people from lack of content than lack of drops. If anything, this is another irritating timesink but oh wells.

I think 99.9% of the people that have complained in this thread (about drop rates/content and such) have that complaint well rooted in the way SE is handling content from the start (not so much about the gear itself). It all goes back to the basic mmo content design that SE is royally boning right now. It's 100% about the bigger picture than just DL.

[Keftenk]

only 13 runs? Pretty sure Raikki's LS has gone 8 days straight without DL :P

Lawls, sucks D;

[Yves]

I think 99.9% of the people that have complained in this thread (about drop rates/content and such) have that complaint well rooted in the way SE is handling content from the start (not so much about the gear itself). It all goes back to the basic mmo content design that SE is royally boning right now. It's 100% about the bigger picture than just DL.

Yeah, I'm with everyone on that. I just think a part of the "bigger picture" is that we (sadly) need timesinks. A small percentage of the population will quit over the crappy droprates. A significantly larger percentage will quit if they run out of junk to do. It isn't fun, it certainly isn't ideal, but it might be necessary.

[Rydin]

I just kind of view this as the "race for gear" concept. Everyone wants it NOW and it can be frustrating to constantly repeat something for no return. But, at the same time, what else is there to do? Most of us are stretching to play the game for more than a couple hours at a time. I'm not complaining but the game is going to lose even more people from lack of content than lack of drops. If anything, this is another irritating timesink but oh wells.

I think this "lack of drops" complaint is a form of "lack of content" though....
there is very little content... so to make gear harder to get, SE has to lower the drop rates to force you to keep repeating the same content over and over....

Yeah, I'm with everyone on that. I just think a part of the "bigger picture" is that we (sadly) need timesinks. A small percentage of the population will quit over the crappy droprates. A significantly larger percentage will quit if they run out of junk to do. It isn't fun, it certainly isn't ideal, but it might be necessary.

Honestly... if there were a million and one things to do in this game... then the DL drop rates would be higher because they wouldn't expect people to put that much time into one dungeon... and thats what has people ticked off
You are punishing players because YOU failed to add enough content to please the playerbase and keep them busy

[Richard_BG]

There is no reason that SE can't make a load of content that is engaging, challenging and randomized/scaled to certain setups/# of players/situations, while also having a reasonable way to obtain gear. There just is no excuse at this point in the mmo genre.

[Yves]

I think this "lack of drops" complaint is a form of "lack of content" though....
there is very little content... so to make gear harder to get, SE has to lower the drop rates to force you to keep repeating the same content over and over....



Honestly... if there were a million and one things to do in this game... then the DL drop rates would be higher because they wouldn't expect people to put that much time into one dungeon... and thats what has people ticked off
You are punishing players because YOU failed to add enough content to please the playerbase

Yup. This is entirely a function of content - I don't think anyone can disagree. It sure is irritating but I think we're stuck with it whether we like it or not.

[Rydin]

Yup. This is entirely a function of content - I don't think anyone can disagree. It sure is irritating but I think we're stuck with it whether we like it or not.

Thats probably true

[Yves]

There is no reason that SE can't make a load of content that is engaging, challenging and randomized/scaled to certain setups/# of players/situations, while also having a reasonable way to obtain gear. There just is no excuse at this point in the mmo genre.

I think this is a misconception. They are doing this - it's just that this engine is not the medium they are doing it for. There is about 6-8 months left before 2.0 (depending on who you are what you think) and I don't think they will be doing much more than bare bones for us via the current client. The roadmap doesn't look like it has much more planned. Honestly, I wouldn't expect much from here on out - we're stuck with what we have (as much as that sucks.)

[Richard_BG]

I think this is a misconception. They are doing this - it's just that this engine is not the medium they are doing it for. There is about 6-8 months left before 2.0 (depending on who you are what you think) and I don't think they will be doing much more than bare bones for us via the current client. The roadmap doesn't look like it has much more planned. Honestly, I wouldn't expect much from here on out - we're stuck with what we have (as much as that sucks.)

well i'll save my judgments for 2.0's content at the E3 release this year. I completely understand that we wont get anything until 2.0 and I accepted that last year. I'm basically just reiterating (mostly to myself and maybe for people who don't understand yet) what SE needs to be doing for 2.0