The minimum acceptable situation

[Jojoya]

Sure, but then they will have to nerf it by a huge percentage.

There are times like these I'm really glad they dont read the forums, honestly, according to some, having an FC and a house should be a 24 7 job and constant upkeep to even keep the house, with a billion chores and annoyances to do, and a giant gil amount to keep it

just stop

Parts of the workshop could already stand to be nerfed. Do Extravagant Salvaged Accessories really need to be worth up to 35k each (especially when it's possible to get multiple in a single voyage)?

We already know they're working on a personal version of voyages. Depending on how those compare to the existing ones, the nerfs are likely incoming regardless.

As for reading the forums, they do have the community team at a minimum reading through the feedback. We got the suggested purchase timer after the complaints when Shirogane was opened, we got the suggested lottery, etc.

But there are plenty of other things that have been suggested but not implemented. So they do read but they don't always do what player ask for.

You also exaggerate how hard it is to make gil. Most players don't have a hard time making it. They have a hard time spending it wisely and so it seems like they don't make much because they're always running out.

Here comes my obligatory "if SE had only developed a good instanced housing system in the first place instead of choosing wards, players wouldn't feel the need to make those suggestions not to mention that demolition wouldn't exist, the lottery wouldn't exist, complaints about not being able to get a specific plot wouldn't exist..."

Safe to say it's not going to stop just because you're mostly happy with the system. Others aren't.

[Stormpeaks]

Parts of the workshop could already stand to be nerfed. Do Extravagant Salvaged Accessories really need to be worth up to 35k each (especially when it's possible to get multiple in a single voyage)?

We already know they're working on a personal version of voyages. Depending on how those compare to the existing ones, the nerfs are likely incoming regardless.

As for reading the forums, they do have the community team at a minimum reading through the feedback. We got the suggested purchase timer after the complaints when Shirogane was opened, we got the suggested lottery, etc.

But there are plenty of other things that have been suggested but not implemented. So they do read but they don't always do what player ask for.

You also exaggerate how hard it is to make gil. Most players don't have a hard time making it. They have a hard time spending it wisely and so it seems like they don't make much because they're always running out.

Here comes my obligatory "if SE had only developed a good instanced housing system in the first place instead of choosing wards, players wouldn't feel the need to make those suggestions not to mention that demolition wouldn't exist, the lottery wouldn't exist, complaints about not being able to get a specific plot wouldn't exist..."

Safe to say it's not going to stop just because you're mostly happy with the system. Others aren't.

And it's also obvious they are happy with the system as it is, since they arent making any changes to it, yes they might add some wards in 7.0, and maybe even switch more wards from FC to personal, or unrestricted, but they are happy with the housing system and lottery as a whole, and I'm pretty confident they dont want to do any big changes to it.

Also it's not about the amount of gil, you pay for the house, you own it, period, there is no "upkeep" just stop with that crap. You paid it in the first place, period. It's yours. Adding gil requirements for upkeep will literally increase RMT, arent there already enough bots in Limsa under the ground ?

As for instanced housing, I am still on my position that I was in weeks ago, only 1 system can work, either instanced OR ward, both cant be on at the same time, because having instanced while ward housing is up will change nothing, the same amount of people will still go for ward housing because it's simply superior.

[Jojoya]

Also it's not about the amount of gil, you pay for the house, you own it, period, there is no "upkeep" just stop with that crap. You paid it in the first place, period. It's yours. Adding gil requirements for upkeep will literally increase RMT, arent there already enough bots in Limsa under the ground ?

We don't own anything in this game. SE owns it all. We pay a license fee for access to the game content. We pay a gil fee to get the ability to use a specific plot but we still do not own it.

If they want to change how the system works, they can do it. If they wanted to take houses away from everyone and force everyone to start from scratch, they could do it.

Upkeep isn't going to increase RMT because the players who are already willing to buy are already doing it. Those who aren't willing to buy will continue not to buy.

I know your position, just as you know mine. But your position comes with a list of flaws that create a negative experience for a significant part of the player base, including those who have managed to get a house. People are excluded from getting certain locations just because a few other players already own it. That would not happen with instanced housing. The neighborhood argument gets lame when there are rarely other players in the wards to encounter.

Did you see that list of plots on Balmung I made yesterday? Know how many players I encountered in the wards while I was gathering that information?

Seven (2 of them were AFK).

On BALMUNG.

No, it's not superior. It might be more to your personal liking but it's in no way superior when some of the limitations we have, like outdoor decorating, are specifically because it's ward and not instanced.