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    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Kurotora Iga
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    1 House 1 FC per DC Only

    Suggested as above, 1 house 1 FC ONLY per account per DC.

    EDIT as raised questions:

    You can only OWN one FC house per DC and 1 Private house on the DC you are on.

    It would not restrict your alts being members of other FC's and even the one you own and run.


    Also this would be the best time to add in these restrictions RIGHT now, or in the close close future as new servers is just around the corner, and people from other serves will make alts... funnel coin to them... buy more houses and FC's, so enough said.

    You can't disagree with this suggestion either, not due to the lack of housing, as it would make no sense at all.
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    Last edited by Themarvin; 06-29-2022 at 12:05 AM.

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    Maui Mawaui
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    HAH. When I tell you the dissent you are about to get over this. The people with 8 different FC and 8 different FC houses per DC are going to go after you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mauiestlauiest View Post
    HAH. When I tell you the dissent you are about to get over this. The people with 8 different FC and 8 different FC houses per DC are going to go after you.
    They can change the rules. I think people are more than willing to accept new ones. The issues comes is when you try and retroactively apply those to people who followed the rules and try and take something away.
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    Marcelloix Ostoiraint
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    house

    i have one fc and one privade house so by the rules i am safe till they change the rules again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mauiestlauiest View Post
    HAH. When I tell you the dissent you are about to get over this. The people with 8 different FC and 8 different FC houses per DC are going to go after you.
    They can, and they may, as long as they stay within the ToS, do I care? Not really.
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    Just... stop with this trash. FIX THE PROBLEM. Stop making worthless adjustments to an already broken system. FIX IT instead. We've run out of band-aids on a gaping femoral artery bleed.

    Our community needs to tell SE to get instanced housing in place and make this available so we can focus energy on improving the QoL instead of people building tents along the housing ward walkways. My God, they treat housing like we are in San Francisco or Los Angeles.
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    Last edited by Greyhawk; 06-28-2022 at 02:47 AM.

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    I disagree - he is actually totally right....making a bigger boat is actually wasteful because your just kicking the can down the road.

    The reality is those databases can be pretty choked already without unlimited housing; and there is a large amount of empty houses or people who frankly have no idea what to do with a home if they ever get one - they will pay decorators millions of gil because they just want to have a nice house to rp in.

    Houses need to have a upkeep cost so that people do not just neglect it.
    Houses DO need to have rooms like FC houses; if your not a FC then each room has a exponential cost increase to add but you can keep adding - making it a massive gil sink.
    All your alts need to have full rights to your house.
    1 House per DC; if you choose to make your home a FC house then your private quarters is larger to compensate.
    Reality is housing will essentially be a endless problem because there is infinite gil to buy it. The issue we are seeing is because players are not taking gil "out" of the system - this results in multi-billionaires who can easily buy out a ward if they have enough alts.
    FC houses need to serve a real purpose - stuff like world transfer from FC houses and glamour dressers would be a good start.
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    K'shtath Azy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    Just... stop with this trash. FIX THE PROBLEM. Stop making worthless adjustments to an already broken system. FIX IT instead. We've run out of band-aids on a gaping femoral artery bleed.

    Our community needs to tell SE to get instanced housing in place and make this available so we can focus energy on improving the QoL instead of people building tents along the housing ward walkways. My God, they treat housing like we are in San Francisco or Los Angeles.
    How about people just stop ruining the game instead of asking for a server infrastructure that is not worth upgrading to for SE ? Try using your head instead of complaining because people want things to be done more equally. They really should limit FCs at the very least and wipe the slate clean for FCs that took over a whole ward. Can't believe people manage to incorporate the worst of capitalism inside a video game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azyreal View Post
    How about people just stop ruining the game instead of asking for a server infrastructure that is not worth upgrading to for SE ? Try using your head instead of complaining because people want things to be done more equally. They really should limit FCs at the very least and wipe the slate clean for FCs that took over a whole ward. Can't believe people manage to incorporate the worst of capitalism inside a video game.
    Strange that you believe an upgrade to the server infrastructure isn't worth it for them when they already announced a major multi-million dollar infrastructure upgrade last year that's to be rolled out over the next few years. At the very least the amount of housing will be getting increased via the new worlds being added though they also said the upgrade was going to include more than just the worlds and logical data centers.

    Not certain why you consider requests for SE to address the supply issue as "ruining the game".

    Nothing is being incorporated into the game that isn't being allowed by SE through their game design. They're the ones who decided multiple house ownership both past and present is not a problem.

    And it's surprising that you don't realize for some people personal greed is always going to win out over community considerations. Games like this are vehicles to indulge in dreams and fantasies that not every can make happen in real life.

    What would be nice is for SE to consider that when working on their game design so every player gets the same access regardless of what other players do. There's no limit on how many players can participate in Savage raiding. Why should there be a limit on how many players can own a house?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Strange that you believe an upgrade to the server infrastructure isn't worth it for them when they already announced a major multi-million dollar infrastructure upgrade last year that's to be rolled out over the next few years. At the very least the amount of housing will be getting increased via the new worlds being added though they also said the upgrade was going to include more than just the worlds and logical data centers.
    Not certain why you consider requests for SE to address the supply issue as "ruining the game".
    Nothing is being incorporated into the game that isn't being allowed by SE through their game design. They're the ones who decided multiple house ownership both past and present is not a problem.
    And it's surprising that you don't realize for some people personal greed is always going to win out over community considerations. Games like this are vehicles to indulge in dreams and fantasies that not every can make happen in real life.
    What would be nice is for SE to consider that when working on their game design so every player gets the same access regardless of what other players do. There's no limit on how many players can participate in Savage raiding. Why should there be a limit on how many players can own a house?
    There was a podcast from one of the Taiwanese publisher telling the story why FF14 end up at China instead of Taiwan.
    The main reason Taiwan publisher has to gave up is due to the infrastructure of FF14 servers is too complex, costly and requires a lot physical space.
    They found out at last minutes before signing the contract.

    This is not some fresh new publisher, this is the same Taiwanese publisher that is hosting Traditional Chinese version of WoW.
    In which they have the technology to host WoW but they can't because of frustrating FF14 server structure complexity.
    The problem is not something that can be solved by buying more servers.
    The core of problem is their fundamental server instructure and SE knew that
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