The minimum acceptable situation

[Themarvin]

Make the FC's instanced guildhalls you can enter from the GC you made it out from... and make housing for people be the ward system... there will be alot of free room whenall the pocket FC's disappear and also every one making an FC will not have to struggle to find an FC house or pay a ludicrous amount of real life money or ingame money for a plot from a FC reseller.

[Oizen]

End the plot system and just do instanced housing like every other game released after 2010.

And even some before 2010.

[Stormpeaks]

End the plot system and just do instanced housing like every other game released after 2010.

And even some before 2010.

Yeah nah, let's not do that thank you very much.

People have their houses and are happy with them, we shouldnt lose our plots because you cant get a shiro large uncontested, sorry.

Delete all housing, apartments only. If there is no differentiated class of housing and everyone can only have the same type of in-game lodgings, there will be no more complaints.

Also, there will be no more fear of auto-demolition and the apartment system can then be expanded upon with the freed-up servers now that they are not needed 24/7 for housing wards.

How about, let me think.. No.

[Solowing]

i like this one for being unique, sure its limited but we have apts

[Ayan_Calvesse]

End the plot system and just do instanced housing like every other FAILED game released after 2010.

And even some before 2010.

Fixed that for you.

-Add some kind of upkeep to housing to prevent folks grabbing housing simply for the sake of having it.
-Remove large/Medium personals from wards.
-Resize ALL plots so that a owner starts at a small and must invest time/gil into the house to increase its size (if they choose to) as a Medium should fit in the new "resized" plots.
-Allow people to select one of 2-3 orientations of their home on their plot.
-In FC only wards leave larges so that large active FC's can compete with each other.
-Have houses have a increase of item limits over time - the purpose of this is to increase the amount of gil moving through the economy by encourging players to redecor as they get a larger item limit over time and allow long time home owners to see their houses becoming complex and elaborate vs the level 20 housing alts everywhere.
-Built in saving of housing builds and VASTLY larger housing storage NOT linked to the house but the character instead.
-One home per world; One FC home per world - in the event that you inherit a FC you are unable to decorate that FC house or enter its workshop. You go first come/first served - so if you can already deco/use the workshop of a FC house - the moment you inherit another; those new houses are under such restrictions until the "prime" FC is no longer the case. This allows you to be in multiple FC's without resulting in mass private FC home ownership.
-Workshop access to all characters via GC.

[Stormpeaks]

Add some kind of upkeep to housing to prevent folks grabbing housing simply for the sake of having it.

No.

Remove large/Medium personals from wards

No.

Resize ALL plots so that a owner starts at a small and must invest time/gil into the house to increase its size (if they choose to) as a Medium should fit in the new "resized" plots.

No.

In FC only wards leave larges so that large active FC's can compete with each other.

It's fine as it is.

Have houses have a increase of item limits over time - the purpose of this is to increase the amount of gil moving through the economy by encourging players to redecor as they get a larger item limit over time and allow long time home owners to see their houses becoming complex and elaborate vs the level 20 housing alts everywhere.

No.

Built in saving of housing builds and VASTLY larger housing storage NOT linked to the house but the character instead.

Hell to the no.

One home per world; One FC home per world - in the event that you inherit a FC you are unable to decorate that FC house or enter its workshop. You go first come/first served - so if you can already deco/use the workshop of a FC house - the moment you inherit another; those new houses are under such restrictions until the "prime" FC is no longer the case. This allows you to be in multiple FC's without resulting in mass private FC home ownership.

Hell to the no.

Workshop access to all characters via GC

Sure, but then they will have to nerf it by a huge percentage.

There are times like these I'm really glad they dont read the forums, honestly, according to some, having an FC and a house should be a 24 7 job and constant upkeep to even keep the house, with a billion chores and annoyances to do, and a giant gil amount to keep it

just stop

[Jojoya]

Sure, but then they will have to nerf it by a huge percentage.

There are times like these I'm really glad they dont read the forums, honestly, according to some, having an FC and a house should be a 24 7 job and constant upkeep to even keep the house, with a billion chores and annoyances to do, and a giant gil amount to keep it

just stop

Parts of the workshop could already stand to be nerfed. Do Extravagant Salvaged Accessories really need to be worth up to 35k each (especially when it's possible to get multiple in a single voyage)?

We already know they're working on a personal version of voyages. Depending on how those compare to the existing ones, the nerfs are likely incoming regardless.

As for reading the forums, they do have the community team at a minimum reading through the feedback. We got the suggested purchase timer after the complaints when Shirogane was opened, we got the suggested lottery, etc.

But there are plenty of other things that have been suggested but not implemented. So they do read but they don't always do what player ask for.

You also exaggerate how hard it is to make gil. Most players don't have a hard time making it. They have a hard time spending it wisely and so it seems like they don't make much because they're always running out.

Here comes my obligatory "if SE had only developed a good instanced housing system in the first place instead of choosing wards, players wouldn't feel the need to make those suggestions not to mention that demolition wouldn't exist, the lottery wouldn't exist, complaints about not being able to get a specific plot wouldn't exist..."

Safe to say it's not going to stop just because you're mostly happy with the system. Others aren't.

[Stormpeaks]

Parts of the workshop could already stand to be nerfed. Do Extravagant Salvaged Accessories really need to be worth up to 35k each (especially when it's possible to get multiple in a single voyage)?

We already know they're working on a personal version of voyages. Depending on how those compare to the existing ones, the nerfs are likely incoming regardless.

As for reading the forums, they do have the community team at a minimum reading through the feedback. We got the suggested purchase timer after the complaints when Shirogane was opened, we got the suggested lottery, etc.

But there are plenty of other things that have been suggested but not implemented. So they do read but they don't always do what player ask for.

You also exaggerate how hard it is to make gil. Most players don't have a hard time making it. They have a hard time spending it wisely and so it seems like they don't make much because they're always running out.

Here comes my obligatory "if SE had only developed a good instanced housing system in the first place instead of choosing wards, players wouldn't feel the need to make those suggestions not to mention that demolition wouldn't exist, the lottery wouldn't exist, complaints about not being able to get a specific plot wouldn't exist..."

Safe to say it's not going to stop just because you're mostly happy with the system. Others aren't.

And it's also obvious they are happy with the system as it is, since they arent making any changes to it, yes they might add some wards in 7.0, and maybe even switch more wards from FC to personal, or unrestricted, but they are happy with the housing system and lottery as a whole, and I'm pretty confident they dont want to do any big changes to it.

Also it's not about the amount of gil, you pay for the house, you own it, period, there is no "upkeep" just stop with that crap. You paid it in the first place, period. It's yours. Adding gil requirements for upkeep will literally increase RMT, arent there already enough bots in Limsa under the ground ?

As for instanced housing, I am still on my position that I was in weeks ago, only 1 system can work, either instanced OR ward, both cant be on at the same time, because having instanced while ward housing is up will change nothing, the same amount of people will still go for ward housing because it's simply superior.

[DeNada]

Delete all housing, apartments only. If there is no differentiated class of housing and everyone can only have the same type of in-game lodgings, there will be no more complaints.

Also, there will be no more fear of auto-demolition and the apartment system can then be expanded upon with the freed-up servers now that they are not needed 24/7 for housing wards.

[Turtledeluxe]

If FCs mainly want MD and LG houses, their wards should be designed with that in mind imo. That ship has sailed of course since the game features one identical neighborhood layout per housing area. The minimum acceptable metric in that case is - - are all houses filled? If they aren't something is wrong. That's where we are right now.