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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    Thought about it a little more, I'd probably expect the healing from the Pepsis to be capped at the amount of HP the barrier was worth at it's application. Or maybe make it able to heal more than an Indom but make Pepsis cost an Addersgall

    And why does SCH also need the same thing if it were implemented? I know SGE is already 80% SCH, 15% Noct AST Frankestein'd leftovers and 5% Panhaima, but why do we need to make that 80% be 85%? Why cant we have the two of them diverge a bit more in design

    Quote Originally Posted by fulminating View Post
    Sage in particular is very much a square peg in a round hole given it's a shield healer yet supposedly revolves around healing through damage.
    'We are splitting the healers into Pure, who focus on throughput raw healing, and Barrier, who focus more on shields and mitigations'

    'Also our new Barrier healer SGE will have a 600p AOE heal, which can be amped to 900p.'

    What did Yoshi mean by this
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    Tatanpa Nononpa
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    'We are splitting the healers into Pure, who focus on throughput raw healing, and Barrier, who focus more on shields and mitigations'

    'Also our new Barrier healer SGE will have a 600p AOE heal, which can be amped to 900p.'

    What did Yoshi mean by this
    Burst ≠ Throughput.

    Over the course of a typical minute in Duty Finder, say, even if a SGE has to address the same amount of incoming damage and damage taken as a WHM, for the WHM, it's going to be almost entirely HP restoration ("throughput raw healing"), whereas for the SGE, you'd expect some of the damage to be mitigated and another good chunk absorbed by shields.
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    Last edited by AmiableApkallu; 03-24-2023 at 10:50 PM.

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    Noah Orih
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    Burst ≠ Throughput.

    Over the course of a typical minute in Duty Finder, say, even if a SGE has to address the same amount of incoming damage and damage taken as a WHM, for the WHM, it's going to be almost entirely HP restoration ("throughput raw healing"), whereas for the SGE, you'd expect some of the damage to be mitigated and another good chunk absorbed by shields.
    Depending on the content, a good SGE isn't applying barriers that much outside of Haima/Panhaima/Holos. Rarely is Eukrasian Prog/Diag worth that barrier. It's mainly Kerachole mitigation you'd expect.
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