how did we at a place where diablo4 is more of an mmo that FF14?

[magitekLuna]

how did we at a place where diablo4 is more of an mmo that FF14?

[Shinkuno]

By constantly listening to people that dont want to play an mmo (or any game for that matter lol)

[AngelCheese77]

Diablo stopped being good after the second one for me.

[Stormpeaks]

People want everything without doing anything, so why would people actually play it as an MMO ? If there is anything just a tiny bit challenging, people complain they actually have to play the game and have to "bother" with it while they have an IRL job a wife and kids and that they dont have time

[Xaruko_Nexume]

A lot of people who play this game do not want a game at all, but a virtual world to live in, because their real one makes them so unhappy. Any challenge or obstacle to that is met with resentment. Not judging, I love this Eorzean VR chat that we have today.

[BRVV]

Because SE has to continue to rework FFXIV to be soloable. They can't make more than 2 new solo FFs in a decade. Smol indie company. Plz understand

[Kaurhz]

Uh,

No amount of content I don't think will resolve the MMO feel or lack thereof. A dungeon is still just 4 random people grouped together that in many cases you never meet again. Raids? That's just bosses on a square or circular platform in 99% of cases. The last 'raid' feel was Baldesion Arsenal, and before that? Coils. - It doesn't feel like anything is being 'raided', just a glorified trial. There's very few select situations where the 'MMO' feel has been there - But then I think this has also just simply changed or has been diluted by time

I love the game personally, but the height limitation, in combination with every zone and nigh on every ounce of the game working through instancing ruins what would actually feel like a 'world' to me. This kills the massively multiplayer part for me.

That said, anyone that thinks the amount of 'content' is an indicator probably ought to go back to the drawing board.

[Ath192]

Uh,

No amount of content I don't think will resolve the MMO feel, or lack thereof. A dungeon is still just 4 random people grouped together that in many cases you never meet again. Raids? That's just bosses on a square or circular platform in 99% of cases. The last 'raid' feel was Baldesion Arsenal, and before that? Coils. - It doesn't feel like anything is being 'raided', just a glorified trial.

I love the game personally, but the height limitation, in combination with every zone and nigh on every ounce of the game working through instancing ruins what would actually feel like a 'world' to me. This kills the massively multiplayer part for me.

I have to agree with the raids not feeling like raids. CLL is my best example of something that felt like a raid to me.

Savage and EX almost feels like super smash bros. You make a lobby and queue into the fight which at that point is pretty much a stage with music.

[magitekLuna]

Diablo stopped being good after the second one for me.

yes 3 was not so good. 4 so far is fun and a really nice MMO

[Shialan]

How did we arrive at a forum with more trolls than the Blizzard ones?