There is so much to do in this game that...

[Ath192]

I mean, are we really going to try and act like the fun police in an MMO? This doesnt mean anything to me, just means thats there's a lot more people that want to socialize in this game than doing content. Thats not the game's fault, thats just how this community is.

I’m not judging. Maybe a little but not in a meaningful way. I’m just observing. It’s self explanatory. But if this is signs of the game popping off to you I guess we view things a bit differently.

On a weekend too.

[Raven2014]

On a weekend too.

This is something against, not in favor of the point you're trying to make. The majority of traffic in PF are savage, which is still currently weekly bounded. And people who raid know you don't wait until weekend because all the good group pop early in the week. Weekend is like the perfect time to kick back and relax after clearing for the week.

But ... if you think that screenshot mean something though ... than mind sharing your explaination for this observation below?



look mighty fine to me, I took it 1 minute ago after seeing your post

[Ath192]

This is something against, not in favor of the point you're trying to make. The majority of traffic in PF are savage, which is still currently weekly bounded. And people who raid know you don't wait until weekend because all the good group pop early in the week. Weekend is like the perfect time to kick back and relax after clearing for the week.

But ... if you think that screenshot mean something though ... than mind sharing your explaination for this observation below?



look mighty fine to me, I took it 1 minute ago after seeing your post

Aether looks decent in the savage department. One out of three NA data centers. I still don’t think this is the silver bullet you think it is.

[Raven2014]

I still don’t think this is the silver bullet you think it is.

I don't even think I need a silver bullet though ...

On the same vent, I don't think your post really mean what you think it meant either. My WoW server (Onyxia) was a death server that eventually got the axe ... that was a long time ago and WoW didn't really die with it did it?

[Ath192]

I don't even think I need a silver bullet though ...

On the same vent, I don't think your post really mean what you think it meant either. My WoW server (Onyxia) was a death server that eventually got the axe ... that was a long time ago and WoW didn't really die with it did it?

Maybe you defended it so much everyone left lol. Time will tell. Let’s just hope you don’t do the same to this game.

[Raven2014]

Maybe you defended it so much everyone left lol. Time will tell. Let’s just hope you don’t do the same to this game.

Is this supposed to make some kind of sense, any relevancy at all, or this is just how you talk when faced with a proper counter argument?

Between this and the other person who took a screenshot of queue time in the death hours of morning as proof the game is dying ... Idk, I feel the game is not really dying, but there is a certain segment seem to desperately want to see it die just so they can feel vindicate? I would think if the game is obviously dying as much or as fast as these people believe, they wouldn't have to desperate searching and making up out-of-context stuffs as their proof.


But indeed, time will tell. It always does, so not sure if there is a reason to say that? Maybe just to sound "grand"?

[caffe_macchiato]

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My sweet, sweet summer child...please remain innocent.

Anyway, horrendous mod beasts and erotica are essentially the future of FFXIV. Once a game starts waning off its official developer-supported content, users have to make their own to fill the gap. According to FFXIV Venues, there are hundreds of clubs active right now on North America datacenters. And that's just on a Sunday, when it's usually the slowest. Clubbing is the de facto endgame for thousands of users, whether you like to admit it or not. The scene has exploded, and you're one of the only ones who've missed the boat. Most players have likely been to one. This is what puts FFXIV on the map these days. Not raiding, not casual gameplay. Clubbing. Erotic roleplay. Modding. Other forms of erotica. It's by far the most modding-friendly and laissez-faire MMO out there, and many people deeply cherish FFXIV specifically for these attributes because no other MMO is quite as generous as we are. That's the truth.

This isn't an endorsement or encouragement, it's just simply what our game has become.

Oh my god..this is TERRIBLE..people are socialising in an MMO ( scandalous....SCANDALOUS I SAY.......) and doing content that ISNT 'raiding"...

We can generally agree that FFXIV is great for socializing. But Square Enix needs to stop wasting resources on raids then. That's not befitting the current spirit of the game. Imagine if they spent resources making more outfits, better housing, better clubbing tools, ability to play and mix tracks in-game instead of Twitch, official modding support, maybe even the ability to make custom housing items. That's what people really want. If you disagree, ask yourself: why are YOU so concerned about people not raiding enough?

[Raven2014]

My sweet, sweet summer child...please remain innocent.

Eh uh, what? My screentshot show 80 in DF with 50 in others. I'm fully well aware of how bursting the club scene is, but to me that's just good news, the more facet of a game people can enjoy, the better. Or is there some kind of rule that specifically say one form of entertainment is mutual exclusive of another. Btw, one of the member of my static got "caught" going to one of these clubs, it was screenshot and we made fun of her for a good 2 weeks, but it's all good fun. And our static run savage and ultimate.

Like ... between this and the whole "AFK limsa" meme, do people really think each players can only be a singular of mind who are not capable of pursuing more than one activities or something?

For me, Glam is the true end game, and I don't say that as a joke or a meme. I do savage not because I want to challenge myself or whatever, don't particular care about all that tbh. But if that challenge is what standing between me and my glam, then by god it will be conquered. Everything I do in the game, I do it in the name of the glam. If those club offer good glam I would join them too! Too bad they don't.

[caffe_macchiato]

Eh uh, what? My screentshot show 80 in DF with 50 in others. I'm fully well aware of how bursting the club scene is, but to me that's just good news, the more facet of a game people can enjoy, the better. Or is there some kind of rule that specifically say one form of entertainment is mutual exclusive of another. Btw, one of the member of my static got "caught" going to one of these clubs, it was screenshot and we made fun of her for a good 2 weeks, but it's all good fun. And our static run savage and ultimate.

There are at least three times as many club listings across North America as there are parties for actual content. And each of those clubs has many times more people than the maximum party size. You simply do not understand the sheer magnitude of a difference there is.

The game has changed. Your personal playstyle doesn't apply to the majority of us anymore.

[Nezerius]

The game has changed. Your personal playstyle doesn't apply to the majority of us anymore.

It really hasn't. These differing playstyles have been around since before NA even had three datacenters.

Gilgamesh was the raid/content-focused server, while Balmung was the social/RP-focused server. Since both servers were part of Aether, this caused Primal to not really have a clear focus on playstyle.

The addition of Crystal and the World Visit system really solidified these different playstyles, with a significant amount of content-focused players transferring from Balmung/Crystal to Gilgamesh/Aether. This turned the entirety of Aether into the raid datacenter, and Crystal into the RP/social datacenter. Primal still being sort of in-between.
Data Center Travel simply made Aether more accessible to Primal/Crystal players.

All of this is easy to see in the screenshots provided by the OP, Raven2014, and you. Showing the PF for Primal, Aether, and Crystal in their respective order. Aether having a significant amount of High End PFs, Crystal being almost exclusively in the Other/Social tab, while Primal is sort of in-between (but leaning towards Social).

TL;DR Nightclubs simply made the social/RP playstyle more apparent, OP should just travel to Aether if they want a more content focused datacenter.