The current state of the "MMORPG" FFXIV is unsustainable. Here's why

[raelgun]

No, people complained final coil was too easy. So we got gordias.

Not really, the amount of people that did coil was tiny.

The amount of non raiders that tried to step into HW raiding got burnt yes, but thats on them as the idea of raid prep and getting better with your class and synergising with other players was something people never thought to do.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Not really, the amount of people that did coil was tiny.

The amount of non raiders that tried to step into HW raiding got burnt yes, but thats on them as the idea of raid prep and getting better with your class and synergising with other players was something people never thought to do.

Tiny? What? Balmung was a raiding server nearly back then lol. A ton of people were doing coil. Most FCs had multiple raid groups.

[raelgun]

Tiny? What? Balmung was a raiding server nearly back then lol. A ton of people were doing coil. Most FCs had multiple raid groups.

Heres the thing thats important for you to understand, people were trying to raid, but werent raiders at all.

Even now, the amount of people that backlash over raid prep, getting gear outside raids, getting food buffs, potions and practicing their classes to fine tune it more is minimal, not only that people dont do anythign to their UIs to fine tune that either.

The amount of people that try to practice their jobs/classes and UI middle of raiding is way too much.

This is the issue, its the non raiders trying it, just because a lot of people who are non raiders did little to no raid prep was the biggest issue, its still an issue today.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Heres the thing thats important for you to understand, people were trying to raid, but werent raiders at all.

Even now, the amount of people that backlash over raid prep, getting gear outside raids, getting food buffs, potions and practicing their classes to fine tune it more is minimal, not only that people dont do anythign to their UIs to fine tune that either.

The amount of people that try to practice their jobs/classes and UI middle of raiding is way too much.

This is the issue, its the non raiders trying it, just because a lot of people who are non raiders did little to no raid prep was the biggest issue, its still an issue today.

No one was complaining about raid prep back in coil. We were just doing the content. And what do you mean non raiders were doing raid content.... That makes them raiders lol.....



I was casual as hell back then and I still completed all of the coils.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Not really, the amount of people that did coil was tiny.

The amount of non raiders that tried to step into HW raiding got burnt yes, but thats on them as the idea of raid prep and getting better with your class and synergising with other players was something people never thought to do.

Ah yes, the HW raids that even the developers admitted they overtuned, but it was the players' fault for not being good enough.

[raelgun]

Ah yes, the HW raids that even the developers admitted they overtuned, but it was the players' fault for not being good enough.

Overtuned for non raiders yes, that is the issue.

And yes it was players not being good enough considering people still cleared it.

The raid was tuned under the premise people got better at the game.

There was still too many people who actually struggled playing the job changes in HW, never mind the content it self.