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    Quote Originally Posted by Soge01 View Post
    I don't see the point in Thancred remaining a normal Gunbreaker. The fact he has a major weakness in that he can't use his own aether to charge his gunblade cartridges and is forced to rely on the Scions or anybody else for that matter to do it for him should really be treated as a last resort instead of a natural constant

    We have Cid's Ironworks, the remnants of the Garlean Empire and the people of Sharlyan, any of whom could figure out an alternative method for Thancred to charge his gunblade cartridges.
    I don't recall if it was ever addressed, but if it was, I guess it's technically a hot take(?): we should've healed Thancred and Y'shtola when we remade their bodies using a mix of aether and dynamis. Both their handicaps are caused by aether, but I doubt the damage was such that it affected even their soul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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    Player Soge01's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTK0HLK View Post
    if anything.., story wise. the rogues gained some Job/Class intermingling with Ninjas at some point.., it's even more so obvious when you've done such Job quests.
    [Kinda Similar to how monks are treated at a certain point..,]

    But in either case.., it doesn't take much to do some swings he is more than capable of..,

    But asides that, he really is held back..,[Or maybe not]
    <but the fact we don't know how frequently he Replenishes.., he's a master DD like combatant. or The rest of the Scions got some made multitasking than we can normally see..,>
    I thought the whole Ninja and Rogue inter mingling thing happened very recently.

    Yup! He showed off his swinging skills as both a Gladiator and Rogue. Particularly as a Rogue in Heavenward, if you think about it. He used a rather one handed blade in conjunction with his usual old smaller arm. He was quite the arm strength and it kind of annoys me we never got weapon with his HW cash shop outfit. :'<

    As a fighter, he's pretty much great on his own. Its just the aether thing required for his weapon that's suprisingly never been confronted or dealt with. I think in Shadowbringers, it was Ryne and Y'shtola that were Thancred's primary aether dealer. Then in Endwalker, Urianger took over that role as well as becoming his traveling partner so he could keep giving Thancred the aether doses he needs for his gunblade.

    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I don't recall if it was ever addressed, but if it was, I guess it's technically a hot take(?): we should've healed Thancred and Y'shtola when we remade their bodies using a mix of aether and dynamis. Both their handicaps are caused by aether, but I doubt the damage was such that it affected even their soul.
    I think the damage is just both physical and corporal damage. And it might extend to their souls? Souls are made of corporal aether, but I'm guessing there's second layer of aether surrounding the soul that acts as the internal fuel for their bodies. In Shadowbringers, it was pointed out that the Scions were nothing but souls with aether acting as their "new" bodies, thus making them solid, instead of being invisible and intangible ghosts like Ardbert.

    I can only guess that the reason why the WoL didn't fixed their handicaps when they brought them back with Azem's crystal was because the WoL summoned them back as they most recently remembered them, damaged aether, eyes and all. Plus, I kind of wouldn't trust the WoL with restoring Thancred's ability to manipulate aether and Y'shtola's eyesight. Remember, WoL's the same person that created the Eden version of the ARR primals who look almost nothing like their ARR counterparts. So, I can't imagine how much they'd screw up Thancred and Y'shtola if they tried to fix their handicaps with aether and dynamis. xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I don't recall if it was ever addressed, but if it was, I guess it's technically a hot take(?): we should've healed Thancred and Y'shtola when we remade their bodies using a mix of aether and dynamis. Both their handicaps are caused by aether, but I doubt the damage was such that it affected even their soul.
    We can create piggies to help people affected by light aether and help a zone create matter out of nowhere but we apparently never think about healing our disabled friends. Wheelchair guy comes to mind aswell.
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless