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    Strange how some like to keep using "casual" (or variations) as if it is a bad word when a casual gamer is someone who (usually) has their life priorities straight and can't treat a game like a full time job.

    The big game developers aren't going to ignore the largest demographic that has the disposable cash to spend as they wish, especially not when it comes to a game like a MMO that greater development demands than a single player game. Because a much larger player base is needed to support the financial demands of the game, they're going to pay attention to feedback from all their players and not just the edgelords who think they're the center of gaming and that everything should be designed to cater to their egos.

    If you don't want to be playing a game that caters to casuals, then pick up some of the single player titles like Elden Ring or look to the indie developers that don't have to justify their decisions at a shareholders meeting and so are better able to cater to the niche groups who have the time for grinds.

    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Yoshi telling people to consider getting a PS5 feels eerily similar to Blizzard being like: "You guys have phones, right?"
    No, not getting that feeling.

    The Diablo franchise was produced for PC with ports to other platforms an afterthought. Fans had expected D4 for PC to be announced, not a financially abusive mobile game.

    The Final Fantasy franchise has been produced primarily for PlayStation with PC more of an afterthought except for the MMO titles. With XVI not being a MMO, suggesting that players who want to play the game earlier get a PS5 instead of waiting for the PC version seems reasonable. Most PC gamers do have at least one gaming console as well.
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    Im just curious to know where the PC crowd coming from acting as if FFXVI being released on console first is new. What, did the last game came out on both PS4, Xbox One and PC at the same time or something? Let me fact check.......


    .....oh wait no, FFXV was first released on console in 2016 with the PC port 2 years later.

    Well I doubt the wait for pc will be that long but I could be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    Just wait until the next expansion arrives

    -Level max 100.
    -No new skills added to any job. (Players struggle with anxiety from pressing too many bottoms)
    -Remove stances completely. (So the tanks don't need to push a skill to actually get aggro)
    -Healers gets their second dot/dps skill removed (Some players wants a pure healing class so we remove all the damage/dots from their tools).
    Please don't give them ideas.
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    "BAAAAAARD!" - 2018

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    I completely understand OP, tye content now is basically Slice of life MMO with a little fighting here and there lol (An exaggeration, I jest. But still)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    No, not getting that feeling.

    The Diablo franchise was produced for PC with ports to other platforms an afterthought. Fans had expected D4 for PC to be announced, not a financially abusive mobile game.

    The Final Fantasy franchise has been produced primarily for PlayStation with PC more of an afterthought except for the MMO titles. With XVI not being a MMO, suggesting that players who want to play the game earlier get a PS5 instead of waiting for the PC version seems reasonable. Most PC gamers do have at least one gaming console as well.
    Said financially abusive mobile game is still making 100s of millions (as of Jan 2023) and is considered a success by Blizzard so I guess people aren't super upset about it.

    As was also said earlier, it's not easy to get a PS5 currently. There are still estimations of shortages lasting until 2024. It's not just PC people getting upset here, it's people who literally can't purchase a PS5 because of that or refuse to pay scalper prices for one (cause screw paying $700 for a console that retails for $400-500 depending on digital edition or not).
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 03-13-2023 at 09:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Said financially abusive mobile game is still making 100s of millions (as of Jan 2023) and is considered a success by Blizzard so I guess people aren't super upset about it.

    As was also said earlier, it's not easy to get a PS5 currently. There are still estimations of shortages lasting until 2024. It's not just PC people getting upset here, it's people who literally can't purchase a PS5 because of that or refuse to pay scalper prices for one (cause screw paying $700 for a console that retails for $400-500 depending on digital edition or not).
    Just looking it now at amazon, PS5 is currently in stock and even have some bundles so saying that its still not easy to get one is false.

    Theyre not in shortage anymore
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    casuals are based, 1500 tomes is based
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Except not really because that was a response made by disillusioned people whom decided to change their formula of focusing on the mobile market with an entirely different audience and here is people doing the oppossite when every FF game has always been released as a console exclusive game first and PC second yet people are whining that they arent being catered to first becuz PC mastuh rais
    Peak fanboy. Other company bad, company i like good.

    Its the same thing

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Strange how some like to keep using "casual" (or variations) as if it is a bad word when a casual gamer is someone who (usually) has their life priorities straight and can't treat a game like a full time job.
    strange how all the "life in check" people that are defending the lack of content have enough time to spend in the forums all day long
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    Last edited by Shinkuno; 03-13-2023 at 11:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    Peak fanboy. Other company bad, company i like good.

    Its the same thing.
    Nope not even close, nor is it even being a fanboy. Its literally seeing the patterns and setting up the standard expectations.

    Nobody in the Blizzard community expected them to make the next big Diablo game a mobile one. A community that has expected all of their main products to be on PC.

    Same with the set standards with SE and the mainline FF games, it has always been a console game first with PC ports later down the road. But people are crying about it now when this has always been a thing with the series. We've expected this, if you havent then it just shows how ignorant you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Nope not even close, nor is it even being a fanboy. Its literally seeing the patterns and setting up the standard expectations.

    Nobody in the Blizzard community expected them to make the next big Diablo game a mobile one. A community that has expected all of their main products to be on PC.

    Same with the set standards with SE and the mainline FF games, it has always been a console game first with PC ports later down the road. But people are crying about it now when this has always been a thing with the series. We've expected this, if you havent then it just shows how ignorant you are.
    And your expactation was that the game you pay monthly for works on a skeleton crew to develop a different game?
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