What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Vyrerus]

"three binary choices"

AceNoi used binary wrong, for sure, but...

01000001. 01010100 01101000 01100101 01111001 00100000 01110111 01100101 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101111 01100100 00100000 01110000 01100101 01101111 01110000 01101100 01100101 00100000 01100001 01101110 01100100 00100000 01100100 01101001 01100100 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 01101000 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01110111 01110010 01101111 01101110 01100111 00100001

01000010. 01010100 01101000 01100101 01111001 00100000 01110111 01100101 01110010 01100101 01101110 00100111 01110100 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101111 01100100 00100000 01100010 01110101 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 01111001 00100000 01110111 01100101 01110010 01100101 01101110 00100111 01110100 00100000 01100010 01100001 01100100 00100000 01100101 01101001 01110100 01101000 01100101 01110010 00100001

01000011. 01010100 01101000 01100101 01111001 00100000 01110111 01100101 01110010 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01101101 01101111 01110011 01110100 00100000 01100101 01110110 01101001 01101100 00100000 01110000 01100101 01101111 01110000 01101100 01100101 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01110111 01101111 01110010 01101100 01100100 00100001 00001010

Three binary choices!

[Saraide]

AceNoi used binary wrong, for sure, but...

01000001. 01010100 01101000 01100101 01111001 00100000 01110111 01100101 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101111 01100100 00100000 01110000 01100101 01101111 01110000 01101100 01100101 00100000 01100001 01101110 01100100 00100000 01100100 01101001 01100100 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 01101000 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01110111 01110010 01101111 01101110 01100111 00100001

01000010. 01010100 01101000 01100101 01111001 00100000 01110111 01100101 01110010 01100101 01101110 00100111 01110100 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101111 01100100 00100000 01100010 01110101 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 01111001 00100000 01110111 01100101 01110010 01100101 01101110 00100111 01110100 00100000 01100010 01100001 01100100 00100000 01100101 01101001 01110100 01101000 01100101 01110010 00100001

01000011. 01010100 01101000 01100101 01111001 00100000 01110111 01100101 01110010 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01101101 01101111 01110011 01110100 00100000 01100101 01110110 01101001 01101100 00100000 01110000 01100101 01101111 01110000 01101100 01100101 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01110111 01101111 01110010 01101100 01100100 00100001 00001010

Three binary choices!

Thank you for your service.

[AwesomeJr44]

AceNoi used binary wrong, for sure, but...

01000001. 01010100 01101000 01100101 01111001 00100000 01110111 01100101 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101111 01100100 00100000 01110000 01100101 01101111 01110000 01101100 01100101 00100000 01100001 01101110 01100100 00100000 01100100 01101001 01100100 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 01101000 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01110111 01110010 01101111 01101110 01100111 00100001

01000010. 01010100 01101000 01100101 01111001 00100000 01110111 01100101 01110010 01100101 01101110 00100111 01110100 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101111 01100100 00100000 01100010 01110101 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 01111001 00100000 01110111 01100101 01110010 01100101 01101110 00100111 01110100 00100000 01100010 01100001 01100100 00100000 01100101 01101001 01110100 01101000 01100101 01110010 00100001

01000011. 01010100 01101000 01100101 01111001 00100000 01110111 01100101 01110010 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01101101 01101111 01110011 01110100 00100000 01100101 01110110 01101001 01101100 00100000 01110000 01100101 01101111 01110000 01101100 01100101 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01110111 01101111 01110010 01101100 01100100 00100001 00001010

Three binary choices!

I'll choose the second one. It's 1s and 0s look the most appealing.

[Werewolf]

Until otherwise stated, I head canon that the more human-looking races are direct descendants of the Ancients, while the less human races (Including Hrothgar) were either created by the Ancients, Zodiark, or more recent post-sundering civilizations like the Allagans.

The Matanga and Lupin in particular are not so subtly hinted at being creations in a sidequest in Elpis and a note in Ktsis Hyperboreia respectively.

You find a journal in one of the dungeons which suggests the Lupin are their creation.

[Remedi]

Dude, people are still writing Reylo fanfics and creating headcanons till this day, long after the last movie of the new star wars trilogy. If you think that someone passionate about a particular story has an empty life... You're in for a surprise tbh.

Not surprised at all, I do know alot of ppl have an empty life in fact, I feel like the thread being active is proof enough no?

[BRVV]

How can we STILL talk about Endwalker??? I mean... it's still going on??? What do you think 6.x is?

[Melorie]

Not surprised at all, I do know alot of ppl have an empty life in fact, I feel like the thread being active is proof enough no?

Telling people they have an empty life because they enjoy discussing the lore of an universe they're passionate about says more about yourself than them. If you ask me, I would say that the empty - and bitter - person here is probably you, who is clearly bothered with something so small as people discussing lore.

How can we STILL talk about Endwalker??? I mean... it's still going on??? What do you think 6.x is?

Even if it was long gone, people still discuss Lord of the Rings, Dune, Wheel of Time and even non-elaborated stuff such as Harry Potter, make up theories and elaborate their vision of that universe. Shallow people are always surprised when someone actually consumes something (a history or fantastical universe) and feels like elaborating their thoughts about it. They forget not everyone is frivolous like themselves.

[AwesomeJr44]

Shallow people are always surprised when someone actually consumes something

These kinds of people remind me of when Yoshi P was surprised when he found out that people cared about the story in his story driven MMO. Of course people were invested in the story of a game that is marketed by its own playerbase as one of the best stories around.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I don't know why you care so much about people's opinion on Shadowbringers. (Especially here, since it's mostly about 6.0)

You're free to dislike Shadowbringers. It wasn't perfect, and in some ways it started a downward spiral for the story even if it wasn't clear at the time. (Before the usual suspects come arrest me for my crimes against "objectivity/majority", I'm only stating my opinion here). And yes, Stormblood's story, while flawed, did a lot of things right.

Most, but not all, people I know who expressed their dissatisfaction with 6.0's story did like 5.0, but I wouldn't say it's closely related to 6.0's perceived issues.
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be impressed with Venat, Hermes, Labyrinthos 2.0 and Ultima Thule even if Shadowbringers didn't exist. I wasn't even a big Ancient / Ascian / Zodiark fan before Endwalker. (Ironically the story team's best efforts at making them unsympathetic made them more sympathetic to me)

Its because just like how you guys feel that EW's story wasnt that good despite its praise, I feel the same way with Shadowbringer's msq (and Heavensward to that extent) where everyone and their mom overly praise it yet Im like the only person who didnt felt like it was this masterpiece of a narrative.

[Absimiliard]

Its because just like how you guys feel that EW's story wasnt that good despite its praise, I feel the same way with Shadowbringer's msq (and Heavensward to that extent) where everyone and their mom overly praise it yet Im like the only person who didnt felt like it was this masterpiece of a narrative.

I wouldn't say only one. I was down with a lot of it, but it really lost me on that last patch. For that to be how the expansion ended... well, let's just say it kinda soured the entire thing in my eyes. It had plenty of questionable bits beforehand as well, but I was able to look past them until that. I mean dude, Elidibus suddenly went from big brain to DERP SMASH, AM SUDOKU BY COP for no discernible reason, and Emet-Selch somehow went from being devoted to his people to just, "yeah, cool, I'll free you from the void so you can kill off the last hope of my people." The things we found out in Endwalker only served to exacerbate my already intense dislike of ShB's final patch.