Quote Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro View Post
A gross misunderstanding and frankly an indirect ad-hominem attack on those who have that genuine complaint. If someone is taking a break for X amount of time to come back to the game, then they still find the game enjoyable enough to invest time into it. However, unlike the white knights on this forum, people would also like to save money while not playing a game for X amount of time. Doing that requires you to unsub which would forfeit your house in 45 days (since you cant access it in that time). It's really a simple concept
Its not an ad-hominem attack if its true. With my post being a direct response to somebody who literally mentioned losing their housing if they take a break.
I think I understood that quite well...doesn't stop it from being weird, or sounding Unhealthy.Yes you should take a break if you arnt having fun...it sounds like we both agree here, but you are fighting me about it XD

Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
Because XIV has made housing THE game at this point. CBU:III has developed that unhealthy relationship with our need to be social with items and a virtual building we can design. They then FOMO it so that we have no real ability to re-gain that true end-game unless we stay subbed.

How are we not allowed to be upset at that fact? It's fine that other people can basically let that content go, but anyone that's actually played long enough know that it's not just something you let go of.

It'd be like if The Sims deleted your house every time you stopped playing, then when you wanted to play again after a few months it made you do a lottery to get it back. It's the same basic idea. Especially when we know there isn't much other content to keep us occupied otherwise, it makes The Sims part of XIV basically the only thing we can do.

If we eventually get proper instanced housing, something like WildStar (Bless their heart), then it wouldn't be this way and we could all live comfortably knowing we can unsub when there's no combat content.

We gain nothing for praising FOMO, we all lose as players because of it. Let us be upset at that, so we can grow and be a better game. Please.
...no, that is COMPLETELY false, YOU, and many other people decided Housing was the Game, its really not that important.
But I understand its hard enough to get one, and they didnt develop the best system so everyone could have one in the 1st place.
However its completely false, and insane to say Housing is THE game.
Neve rmade an argument that you can/cant be, my point is its weird and unhealthy to feel so shackled to a game BECAUSE of a House.

Nobody Praised FOMO, man, always funny when people create nonsense like this out of thin air.
We arnt even arguing about "A better game" we are talking about people paying a sub and logging on just for their housing.


Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
People put in effort into those houses, it's trashy to see them go to waste. All because despite people saying "Oh you can just take a break", that's the achievement you lose. And getting a house back is beyond garbage.

First, the loss of a plot means you just wasted 3m+ you probably farmed for just like that.
Then you need to go all the way back to the start and compete with so many other players who want a house as well.
If you have anything larger than a Small, the loss is higher.
Plus, ok sure, you lost the house, but you resub and "you can just get another one". a) what, to lose it again, and b) what, and spend a decent portion of that time without the house?

Imagine if you spent all that time playing Pokémon, finished your pokédex, but then just because you didn't load the game in X time, you lost all that progress. Sure, you can just go back and do it all over again... but what's the point in that? You likely wouldn't want to do that again either. It's just a digital collection, who cares, right? Well, true, it's a digital achievement, it's as flimsy as it can get. But there's a principle for the consumer somewhere there, part of enjoying the game and the rewards/achievements that come with it, even if they're just personal. And a game not respecting that is just as backwards as caring too much about it, you know?
If Im finished playing Pokemon, Im finished.
Maybe Im different, but I dont very often return to games Im done with, unless it is TRULY special. And in that case, I wouldn't mind re-experiencing it and starting over.

The point the other 2 people are missing here is, Im not saying this is an OK system, not at all. It is trash, and the Devs know it.
Just that: as we agreed, its pretty weird...Im not sure if Ill say Pathetic, but Unhealthy, to Feel The NEED to keep wasting money or keep coming into a game you arnt enjoying, just for that House.

Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
Oh you lapsed your sub? Let me just take "The Necromancer" title away from you. You can start over when you come back tho!
Ok now you are just getting silly.