Question for the people who don't dislike the 2nd relic step

[Rokke]

By not being eureka 3 its inherently alright by me.

[NekoMataMata]

Are we gonna ignore the elephant in the room that widespread access to something devalues its worth in a world where everyone strives to be as unique as possible?

This is true. I've seen so many people with manderville relics, and I can only assume that I'm likely going to every every other person in 7.0 with the finished piece if it continues up like this.

Maybe it's just me but I always thought of the relics as the ultimate weapons(no not that one) of each expansion, and I just thought of them as a big deal.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

This is true. I've seen so many people with manderville relics, and I can only assume that I'm likely going to every every other person in 7.0 with the finished piece if it continues up like this.

Maybe it's just me but I always thought of the relics as the ultimate weapons(no not that one) of each expansion, and I just thought of them as a big deal.

If that's the case ultimate weapons are meaningless because of how many you see sitting in Limsa at all hours

[CidHeiral]

Why?

I do not derive any enjoyment from mindless grinds so the second step being more tomestones doesn't bother me at all. That being said I understand why some players who do enjoy grinds would be upset. I assume the later steps will probably be more grindy.

[Amenara]

Completing Manderville questline is challenging enough.

Thankfully skip cutscene exists.

I think my biggest gripe is I have no reason to do anything beyond normal daily things with the current relic requirements. Relics were the carrot for me to do other things and I am missing that so far. I would have liked the devs to use the relic as a reason to make variant and criterion dungeons worth doing again, especially since it is the shiny new thing they made for EW.

[Gemina]

Go and check out xenoys video on YouTube about it. I echo his thoughts almost exactly.

I am someone who places a great amount of value on time, and why anyone would want to spend countless hours grinding old content for an inferior weapon in a vertical progression game is simply beyond my comprehension.

In short. I have better ways to spend my time in FFXIV

[TomsYoungerBro]

I am someone who places a great amount of value on time, and why anyone would want to spend countless hours grinding old content for an inferior weapon in a vertical progression game is simply beyond my comprehension.

This is flawed logic since the relic is a multi-step item that becomes the best weapon for that expansion at the end. You are not grinding for an "inferior" weapon. Yes, the relic is currently inferior, but will eventually be the best. It will also have flexibility in substats, making it the best for previous expansion content as well. This is why high-end raiders care about the relic so much even though it looks and feels like a catch-up item. It's not.

[Raven2014]

This is true. I've seen so many people with manderville relics, and I can only assume that I'm likely going to every every other person in 7.0 with the finished piece if it continues up like this.

Maybe it's just me but I always thought of the relics as the ultimate weapons(no not that one) of each expansion, and I just thought of them as a big deal.

It's just you. Unless you forget the first few step of the relic are always acquired by almost everyone.

[Zeastria]

It's early stages.. previous relic weps also are like that... who are to say it will be as easy later down the line???

[TomsYoungerBro]

It's early stages.. previous relic weps also are like that... who are to say it will be as easy later down the line???

First step of shb relic: Tomes
First step of endwalker relic Tomes

Second step of shb relic: Bozja Grind and/or HW fate grind
Second step of endwalker: Tomes


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