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  1. #61
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    ibrisilbane's Avatar
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    Brynmor Dix
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    Mateus
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    Reaper Lv 86
    I'm going to preface this by stating my knowledge of the original Chemist class is limited to the wiki, so I might miss the mark, but if it were up to me, I would expand the abilities beyond the traditional apothecary-style mixer and make it a full combat medic, and base it out of Garlemald (due to their combat training and aversion to magic).

    To further differentiate them from the other healers, I would have them be a healer that fights in melee using knives or revolvers/pistols and they use bandages, poultices, and tonics to heal instead of magic.

    Since the mixing mechanic is integral to the class, I would do it similar to a mudra system, where you're given 3-4 "ingredients" to mix, and those can translate to different party buffs, such as dps increase, damage reduction, or even a movement speed increase.

    anyways, just a thought
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  2. #62
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    in the lvl 20 thaumaturg quest is a npc who cant use magic. he is an alchemist and he heals you with the cast 'aqua vitae' during battle.... i guess they have to change that if it doesnt fit their role fantasy. i'm getting mixed signals xD

    edit: didmt see its a necro
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    Last edited by Asari5; 03-03-2023 at 12:39 PM.

  3. #63
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    With the events of Endwalker, Garlemald is a lot more open to working with people. Through them a non-magic based healer wouldn't be that much of a stretch as their army would likely have had something like it before they took in other races to use healing magic.

    Although the name Chemist would definitely be mixed with Alchemist... The healers they have when fighting the garleans were always named Medicus, maybe if they did do it that could be the Job name.
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  4. #64
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    CidHeiral's Avatar
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    Cid Heiral
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Apparently Endwalker is the closest we've gotten to Chemist being added but they thought it wasn't magical enough and that throwing potions at people looked weird. I think both of those reasons are pretty silly because 1. not being magical is part of why it's cool just like someone may be drawn to Machinist instead of Black Mage and 2. nobody would care if the animation was a potion going into someone and if it's that much of a problem just make them shatter in the air before they land.
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  5. #65
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    With the events of Endwalker, Garlemald is a lot more open to working with people. Through them a non-magic based healer wouldn't be that much of a stretch as their army would likely have had something like it before they took in other races to use healing magic.

    Although the name Chemist would definitely be mixed with Alchemist... The healers they have when fighting the garleans were always named Medicus, maybe if they did do it that could be the Job name.
    Good thing there's multiple names they can use. They could even call it Apothecary.
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  6. #66
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    TabrisOmbrelame's Avatar
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    Relnoria Thelysea
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    Moogle
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    With the events of Endwalker, Garlemald is a lot more open to working with people.
    This ^

    Since Garlemald is now more open to discuss with us "Barbarians" and are now enjoying our help, they may share knowledge on science. In terms of Lore, it actually makes sense !
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  7. #67
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TabrisOmbrelame View Post
    This ^

    Since Garlemald is now more open to discuss with us "Barbarians" and are now enjoying our help, they may share knowledge on science. In terms of Lore, it actually makes sense !
    Oh that'd be lovely.

    "You Savages and your primitive ways, your healing is crude and drawing on dangerous elements! Who uses stars to cure people!? Pfeh!"
    "Oh yeah? Well what do you guys use to heal your illnesses and cure your injuries?"
    "Homeopathy."

    ok but no seriously, I wonder how their medicine works. We know Bajsaljen from Bozja worked as a doctor for the Garleans until the Bozja Incident killed his family. He says he learned a lot he otherwise wouldn't have if Garleans weren't in charge. He's still a White Mage though, so I wonder what that was. Perhaps herbal medicine? Or using surgical procedures to cure issues that the elements can't heal?
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  8. #68
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    Eiserne Sternschnuppe
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    Shiva
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    Monk Lv 90
    I really think they should do Chemist/Apothecary, 100%.


    Weapon: Ladle/Spoon (big one)

    You can shoot projectiles from the spoon to damage enemies like Garnet and Eiko in FFIX:



    You also use the spoon to "MIX" (cast action) ingredients that you previously put into your cauldron to create different potions depending on the ingredients.

    Obviously you would also be able to throw grenades, ingnition powder that you can then ignite with different flavors and aromatic fragrances that regens or gives mitigation to your party. Maybe you can even "MIX" bombs with different effects like Plague Knight in Shovel Knight.
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    Last edited by Eisi; 03-03-2023 at 10:07 PM.

  9. #69
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    Nadia Frostwind
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    Seraph
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Chemist would be a wonderful job. It's one of the only classic healers left, and its place in the lore would be wonderful for a post 6.x Garlean society. We need a healer that isn't based on magic for once. A science based healer that has all kinds of potions and concoctions would be lovely.

    It's weapon ideas are limitless. It could be gun based, it could be a some kind of a mini aether cannon, or really anything else you put your imagination to.
    Some ideias:

    - the weapon stays in their backs like a small backpack. The size at our backs is the same as the AST weapon. When they draw the weapon, it floats in front of them and become like a drone with an appearence of a mini chemistry station (with some bottles and vials with different coloured liquids inside). The weapon auto-attack is discharge of eletricity or acid or fire or even darts (while the character do nothing like an automatic behavior of the weapon).

    - their damage attacks are like bombs (which could have some of the lore of the job linked to the goblins at Iddylshire, maybe). And they can have an AoE of delayed explosion attacks and the ability to move the bombs in the combat before the explosion. This moving ability is made only by the "caster" to avoid problems if a party member hits the bomb.

    - one of these bombs could be used to attach to the enemy target and explodes after a while, like a timed "C4".

    - their healings could come from potions and vials they throw on party members or in the floor, like AoE heals. One of them could create a bubble form of healing AoE in a designated area.

    - some of their skills have visually a mini drone that attaches to a party member and while attached to the target it provides a shield (or regen effect).

    - their lv3 LB could be a satellite beam of pure "life-infusion" discharged on a big area with a massive light-aspected torrential liquid.

    - their type of healing could be regenerative (using the mini drones and things like injections of green liquids) or shieldings (using mini drones that attaches to the target generating the shield but having a limited battery).

    - the name of the job could be "Liber Dominus" (latin form for "Chemistry Master") and the master that teaches us the job could come from Garlemald but with the help of one of the Goblins from Iddylshire (like a mix of skills).

    - the job have an appeal of a "chemistry teacher" in their gear sets but with some hi-tech parts from magitek, like gogles or a small battery system in their belts.
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    Last edited by Wanzzo; 03-04-2023 at 03:39 AM.
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  10. #70
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    A bunch of their instant/ability heals could in fact be "Stashed" items, like Alchemist in FFX-2. They had all manner of items that didn't use your inventory items in there, including Phoenix Downs, Mega Phoenix, X-Potions, Remedies, and Elixirs. I could imagine their LB3 would be Megalixir. They toss it into the air and "blow it up", causing it to rain a full heal onto the party. Plus Megalixirs do not exist in FFXIV, so it'd be a nice way to add it to the game.
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