Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

[NekoMataMata]

Failure to mitigate in expert is perfectly acceptable if the tank is decent at the game and playing WAR. It's about the only way to get to throw around all that self-healing without most of it going into overhealing territory. Most healers in randoms will panic if HP is anywhere close to half, so it's never going to get low enough under normal circumstances for them to enjoy that part of their kit.

Now if they aren't healing themselves after taking things to the face, that's when you curebot. Or better yet, grab some popcorn and watch everything burn.

This. WARs get the most out of their healing if they let themselves drop to like 20k HP before popping BW. Especially 86+ because you have Orogeny which is an oGCD aoe that you can use immediately after.

When I play WAR though most healers immediately start topping me off, so I just use it immediately whenever I've grabbed both packs. Although, as healer I've run into a handful of WARs that just don't use it? Like I've sat there waiting for this one WAR to pop BW and they never did for the entire dungeon. It doesn't matter too much because I usually play SGE or AST, so I have plenty of sources of oGCD heals so I can still DPS while healing, but as someone that's actually played the class it confuses you when you first run into it.

[Absimiliard]

I cannot describe how pleased I am when I get a SGE healer as a WAR. Rarely do I encounter SGE players that heal more than they have to for the sake of their damage. They toss out some shields and leave me to my own devices. WAR and SGE are both a tad subpar in terms of raw DPS, but in terms of kit they possess an amount of synergy that is outright hilarious. I do, however, often run into WARs that refuse to heal themselves almost every time I decide to queue up as a DPS. WAR is already unga bunga, so I cannot fathom how someone could actually be bad at it.

[Lium]

Failure to mitigate in expert is perfectly acceptable if the tank is decent at the game and playing WAR. It's about the only way to get to throw around all that self-healing without most of it going into overhealing territory. Most healers in randoms will panic if HP is anywhere close to half, so it's never going to get low enough under normal circumstances for them to enjoy that part of their kit.

Now if they aren't healing themselves after taking things to the face, that's when you curebot. Or better yet, grab some popcorn and watch everything burn.

Well, yeah, if only every tank out there were WARs. There’s a reason why I love healing WARs because I spend most of my time DPSing and throwing out cards (I heal mostly on AST, but sometimes also WHM and SGE. But mostly AST.)

The other tanks are good, too. But WAR is easy mode for me in terms of healing.

[Iyrnthota]

This. WARs get the most out of their healing if they let themselves drop to like 20k HP before popping BW. Especially 86+ because you have Orogeny which is an oGCD aoe that you can use immediately after.

When I play WAR though most healers immediately start topping me off, so I just use it immediately whenever I've grabbed both packs. Although, as healer I've run into a handful of WARs that just don't use it? Like I've sat there waiting for this one WAR to pop BW and they never did for the entire dungeon. It doesn't matter too much because I usually play SGE or AST, so I have plenty of sources of oGCD heals so I can still DPS while healing, but as someone that's actually played the class it confuses you when you first run into it.

Honestly, sometimes I find myself uneccessarily topping off tanks just trying to get some use out of my Lilies.

[BRVV]

The RDM bailed their first death but both of died at about 30% HP remaining while the dragon was about to touch down during the foggy phase. Had to be a Blue Healer to buy the RPR time to dps boss to death.[/INDENT]

I guess you either had a dragoon or a reaper because i don't think you were 5 people.

Today I got a raid in duty finder, where all 8 peoples were having their portraits fully intact.

LIES!

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I guess you either had a dragoon or a reaper because i don't think you were 5 people.

Nope, I did not misremember.

By ‘dragon’ I meant the Mist Dragon, last boss from The Burn. Party consisted of PLD (me), SCH, RPR, and RDM.

[BRVV]

Nope, I did not misremember.

By ‘dragon’ I meant the Mist Dragon, last boss from The Burn. Party consisted of PLD (me), SCH, RPR, and RDM.

Ah i see, my bad.

[Avatre]

Had a very painful run of expert roulette last night. Queued up as DNC. Got Lapis Manalis. Partnered with another DNC, PLD, and WHM. Figured we would just melt trash with our 4 dances and AoE combos....well, when I chose the other DNC as my dance partner they chose the PLD. So I said screw it, and chose the WHM(best decision I made since the other DNC was outside of AoE range 99% of the time during the pulls and WHM was inside the pulls using Holy). Full packs took forever to die due to this, since they were single targeting and jumping around(whatever keeps them focused, but at least be in AoE range!) away from the mobs. When they died on a boss, they never reused Standard Step until the NEXT pack. They even let it get down to 10-15 seconds remaining before the buff falls off and were constantly(even when they weren't just ressed) 4th on the enmity list. It hurts my soul when I see a DNC not even using half their kit, and letting the dance buff fall off or not using it when it is available

[Pixieh]

Did a run of Il Mheg on my RDM. Tank didn't AoE and us DPS died due to aggro on first pack. Tank claimed there was no damage so we should focus on one mob instead of all. Of course there was no damage since we died due to tank not holding aggro. Dead DPS do no DPS.
Tank got petulant when we (all three of us) told him how to tank properly so packs can be AoE'd down by the DPS without aggro issues. Was reluctant to accept advise, told him I got a lvl 90 tank, so have experience tanking so my advise isn't just willy nilly (also a mentor), immediately got told I got an ego.

Tank was a sprout who did the dungeon for the first time. Sure buddy, you know better.

[AnotherPerson]

Had a new tank try to ignore all the mechanics in Amaurot (ignored and died multiple times to a bunch of mechanics, including the big AoE falling Walls as well). It's the first time I saw a tank trying their best to die in each part of the fight by walking into every visible AoE possible.

Did you know, in the Final Boss, where if you fail the Therion Charge (proximity AoE), assuming you haven't died because you're a tank, you get marked with doom? The tank also stepped in fire after the charge, so that was pretty funny to watch. The first time it happened, I had less than 3 seconds on doom to top them off from half HP to remove the debuff. They also got a vulnerability stack from it. I had 2 addersgalls for a Taurochole and Druochole so I managed to save them. The second time it happened, the entire party was taking damage and failing mechanics altogether, so I had only one addersgall ready. Tank immediately died to doom after choosing to step into the fire after because my addersgall can't heal them to full when they ticked down and I already spent my instant healing abilities trying to patch up everyone else for staying in the AoE beams.

There was no wipes, but that was certainly an interesting dungeon run.