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  1. #21
    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Feline Good
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    Halicarnassus
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    Paladin Lv 50
    I dislike Eureka/Bozja, but it's possible I could enjoy something similar assuming it's tied to the current expansion. The problem is that it'll be dead content immediately afterwards. At least with ARR/HW relics you can throw up PF for whatever it is and you'll have more of a chance of finding a group to grind with than in there.
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  2. #22
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    LianaThorne's Avatar
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Maduin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VictorTheed View Post
    Since we're not getting exploratory zone content then I hope the next step is a grind, but a grind that has multiple forms of content to do the grind in so I don't get bored.

    Like use roulettes, the new deep dungeon content,etc, or do what they do with the moogle events, those are great examples of a fun grind cause they got a good portion of ways to do the grind.
    Id bet gil that the best methods are going to be behind Crystal Tower as per usual.
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  3. #23
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Whatever it is, I hope they will not put it behind Crystal Tower grindfest or deep dungeons.

    But considering Eureka Orthros is the next hyped upcoming content, I guess I’ll have to accept that the latter is more likely to happen.

    I miss Exploratory Zones Badly.
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  4. #24
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    Hanayumi's Avatar
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    We'll prolly see light farming again...
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  5. #25
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 100
    I've sort of learned over the last few expansions... don't bother with the relic until patch X.5. The grindfest when it first comes out is ridiculous and they lessen the grind when the next step comes out. I didn't start Eureka until 4.5. If I recall, I started Anemos when Pyros was just released (and they nerfed Anemos and Pagos). Then I started Pyros when Hydatos was released (and they nerfed Pyros). I zerged through Pyros and did Hydatos when it was current content. Unless something has changed, the relic is always behind the upgraded tomestone weapon until patch X.55 or so when you can wrap up the relic quest and get the raid-equivalent reward.
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  6. #26
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    What's funny is they seemingly won't do this because of the perception raiders will be upset it's now "easier" to get a better weapon than Savage. Most raiders don't give a damn after four months. Those who did have long already cleared Savage. Unfortunately, the small subset of people who would get annoyed their "hard work" is being made worthless are who SE keeps catering to.
    CBU3 game design in a nutshell.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    raelgun's Avatar
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    Thendra Cyril-gun
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    real talk, I dont think you guys EVER actually believe what you say.

    "Gee wilikers Batman, I sure was entertained spamming all those same alliance raids and dungeons repeatedly for my Shb relic!"

    This content drought has officially gas lighted the community into thinking that grinds are legit fun and thats hilarious to me.
    I think you really need to get into your head that people do enjoy tough content, long grinds.

    What people actually fear is, more content gets released like this.

    FF in it's current design is showing that instant gratification is a bad design.
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  8. #28
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    I think you really need to get into your head that people do enjoy tough content, long grinds.

    What people actually fear is, more content gets released like this.

    FF in it's current design is showing that instant gratification is a bad design.
    I far rather prefer having grinds relegated to either Fates, deep dungeons or any other activity rather than having to spam one specific duty unsynced or not just to get an item. That design is boring.
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  9. #29
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    I don't mind Eureka and Bozja-style content being back. Those are fun. But longevity seems to die down super noticeably on them, and for a relic that isn't the best thing out there. But a grindfest should be fine provided it's fun, and repetition doesn't always equate fun x_x

    I love the Ivalice raids to a fault, but that doesn't mean I'd want to have it so many times. If I had my favourite dish for breakfast, lunch and dinner I'd get sick of it pretty quickly...
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  10. #30
    Player Masekase_Hurricane's Avatar
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VictorTheed View Post
    Since we're not getting exploratory zone content then I hope the next step is a grind, but a grind that has multiple forms of content to do the grind in so I don't get bored.

    Like use roulettes, the new deep dungeon content,etc, or do what they do with the moogle events, those are great examples of a fun grind cause they got a good portion of ways to do the grind.
    lol doesnt stop them from sending us in old ones though
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