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  1. #11
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    VictorTheed's Avatar
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    Victor Theed
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    Miner Lv 90
    Since we're not getting exploratory zone content then I hope the next step is a grind, but a grind that has multiple forms of content to do the grind in so I don't get bored.

    Like use roulettes, the new deep dungeon content,etc, or do what they do with the moogle events, those are great examples of a fun grind cause they got a good portion of ways to do the grind.
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    Byron-Blackfyre's Avatar
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    Byron Blackfyre
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    Kujata
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I did have a lot of fun doing Eureka with my friends. Same for Bozja and Zadnor. So I can understand that perspective, but I dont mind just doing dailies and collecting tomestones either for a change.
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  3. #13
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Only relic weapons I liked doing was the Eureka ones. But I don't mind collecting tomestones for these relics.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    I mean, even if it is bait, I completely agree with it. Bring back the old style of relics. Make them BiS again at the cost of being a huge time sink. No more of this keeping their growth staggered so far behind as to make them not even worth having by the time you can upgrade them crap.
    I'd be fine with a huge time sink if they introduced them earlier to justify it. Like 6.1 earlier.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  5. #15
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    I mean, even if it is bait, I completely agree with it. Bring back the old style of relics. Make them BiS again at the cost of being a huge time sink. No more of this keeping their growth staggered so far behind as to make them not even worth having by the time you can upgrade them crap.
    Xeno and Happy talked about this on Mogtalk just the other day. Their example was the old ARR relics and applying that progression trajectory to current day. Xeno's example being to release the relic in the .1 patch that comes a few weeks after Savage where it's at say, i615 or i620. This makes it a perfect side grade for tanks and healers who basically don't see loot in a lot of statics as you generally prioritize DPS. When the .5 patch launches and the tier is four months old, drop the next step pushing the relic to i630 or i635.

    What's funny is they seemingly won't do this because of the perception raiders will be upset it's now "easier" to get a better weapon than Savage. Most raiders don't give a damn after four months. Those who did have long already cleared Savage. Unfortunately, the small subset of people who would get annoyed their "hard work" is being made worthless are who SE keeps catering to.
    (16)
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  6. #16
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    Absimiliard's Avatar
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    Cassius Rex
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    What's funny is they seemingly won't do this because of the perception raiders will be upset it's now "easier" to get a better weapon than Savage. Most raiders don't give a damn after four months. Those who did have long already cleared Savage. Unfortunately, the small subset of people who would get annoyed their "hard work" is being made worthless are who SE keeps catering to.
    Most raiders probably wouldn't care if the thing released alongside savage at a slight item level deficit, being increased to equal after a month or so has passed. Feeling jilted because you're either not prioritized or just have bad luck is a common enough thing that nearly everybody can relate to it. All the serious raiders already have their clears by then anyway. It would be a nice little leg up for PF groups or those whose statics struggle.
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    Last edited by Absimiliard; 02-28-2023 at 12:39 PM.

  7. #17
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorTheed View Post
    Since we're not getting exploratory zone content then I hope the next step is a grind, but a grind that has multiple forms of content to do the grind in so I don't get bored.

    Like use roulettes, the new deep dungeon content,etc, or do what they do with the moogle events, those are great examples of a fun grind cause they got a good portion of ways to do the grind.
    real talk, I dont think you guys EVER actually believe what you say.

    "Gee wilikers Batman, I sure was entertained spamming all those same alliance raids and dungeons repeatedly for my Shb relic!"

    This content drought has officially gas lighted the community into thinking that grinds are legit fun and thats hilarious to me.
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  8. #18
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    Waira Amarilla
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    You will be forced to spam the Crystal Tower raids for your new shiny relic weapon upgrade again and you will love it!
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    Ishe Platinum
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    Diabolos
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    Dancer Lv 100
    My guess is the next relic will heavily involve the new deep dungeon, you know, to get people to play it.
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  10. #20
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    Imagine doing relics weapons when obviously SE its going to nerf them in a couple of months later on.
    Dont care, GOT THAT GLAMOUR BABY!
    No Regrets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soge01 View Post
    You will be forced to spam the Crystal Tower raids for your new shiny relic weapon upgrade again and you will love it!
    HECK YEAH, GIVE IT TO ME BABY
    IpromiseIwontcryhalfwaythroughandquitbecauseitbecametomuchthistime
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  11. 02-28-2023 02:39 PM
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    Epic Fail lolololol

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