Really hope that next Relic Step will be a complete grindfest again

[Eve_The_Witch]

What are the odds that we will get huge raid maps like in Shadowbringers again? Think those were awesome and fun to do. Was also amazing that there was a "Relic" Set to farm and finally an exteme version of a Raid.

[Midareyukki]

First things first: is this bait?

[Saraide]

First things first: is this bait?

Yes but that hasnt stopped anyone on here ever.

[Eve_The_Witch]

First things first: is this bait?

What you mean? Would just be great to have more to do than weekly token and tomestone farm which can be done in a few hours.

[Volgia]

First things first: is this bait?

Naw, it's a flirt

[Absimiliard]

I mean, even if it is bait, I completely agree with it. Bring back the old style of relics. Make them BiS again at the cost of being a huge time sink. No more of this keeping their growth staggered so far behind as to make them not even worth having by the time you can upgrade them crap.

[Deceptus]

I mean, even if it is bait, I completely agree with it. Bring back the old style of relics. Make them BiS again at the cost of being a huge time sink. No more of this keeping their growth staggered so far behind as to make them not even worth having by the time you can upgrade them crap.

I'd be fine with a huge time sink if they introduced them earlier to justify it. Like 6.1 earlier.

[ForteNightshade]

I mean, even if it is bait, I completely agree with it. Bring back the old style of relics. Make them BiS again at the cost of being a huge time sink. No more of this keeping their growth staggered so far behind as to make them not even worth having by the time you can upgrade them crap.

Xeno and Happy talked about this on Mogtalk just the other day. Their example was the old ARR relics and applying that progression trajectory to current day. Xeno's example being to release the relic in the .1 patch that comes a few weeks after Savage where it's at say, i615 or i620. This makes it a perfect side grade for tanks and healers who basically don't see loot in a lot of statics as you generally prioritize DPS. When the .5 patch launches and the tier is four months old, drop the next step pushing the relic to i630 or i635.

What's funny is they seemingly won't do this because of the perception raiders will be upset it's now "easier" to get a better weapon than Savage. Most raiders don't give a damn after four months. Those who did have long already cleared Savage. Unfortunately, the small subset of people who would get annoyed their "hard work" is being made worthless are who SE keeps catering to.

[Absimiliard]

What's funny is they seemingly won't do this because of the perception raiders will be upset it's now "easier" to get a better weapon than Savage. Most raiders don't give a damn after four months. Those who did have long already cleared Savage. Unfortunately, the small subset of people who would get annoyed their "hard work" is being made worthless are who SE keeps catering to.

Most raiders probably wouldn't care if the thing released alongside savage at a slight item level deficit, being increased to equal after a month or so has passed. Feeling jilted because you're either not prioritized or just have bad luck is a common enough thing that nearly everybody can relate to it. All the serious raiders already have their clears by then anyway. It would be a nice little leg up for PF groups or those whose statics struggle.

[Deceptus]

What's funny is they seemingly won't do this because of the perception raiders will be upset it's now "easier" to get a better weapon than Savage. Most raiders don't give a damn after four months. Those who did have long already cleared Savage. Unfortunately, the small subset of people who would get annoyed their "hard work" is being made worthless are who SE keeps catering to.

CBU3 game design in a nutshell.