Paladin Updates

[KoujiGeki]

why is Dlvl even a thing

[Arcell]

why is Dlvl even a thing

It's an easy way to scale things without having to actually put stats in that matter. Another relic of the Tanaka age. They really need to reconsider the formulas without dlvl.

[Firon]

It's an easy way to scale things without having to actually put stats in that matter. Another relic of the Tanaka age. They really need to reconsider the formulas without dlvl.

No Dlvl is present in all rpg's games its not a relic thing its even used in the newest Wrpg's and newer Jrpg's. It was in XI but not to this extreme nature. Like in FF XI I went and poked jormy as a lvl 1 class and he didn't smack me for 9999 dmg but it was like for 1500 dmg.

It was one of the reasons in XI when a class had shit evasion like pld who could dodge a lot of attacks vs a mob who is like lvl 60 but if a class who has good evasion and they was lower Lvl than the pld but had the same evasion number as the 75 pld they would dodge less even tho the numbers was the same this is what Dlvl does it gives you slight edge vs lower lvl players/mobs but it should be to this extreme fashion in XIV.

[Arcell]

No Dlvl is present in all rpg's games its not a relic thing its even used in the newest Wrpg's and newer Jrpg's. It was in XI but not to this extreme nature. Like in FF XI I went and poked jormy as a lvl 1 class and he didn't smack me for 9999 dmg but it was like for 1500 dmg.

It was one of the reasons in XI when a class had shit evasion like pld who could dodge a lot of attacks vs a mob who is like lvl 60 but if a class who has good evasion and they was lower Lvl than the pld but had the same evasion number as the 75 pld they would dodge less even tho the numbers was the same this is what Dlvl does it gives you slight edge vs lower lvl players/mobs but it should be to this extreme fashion in XIV.

Doesn't excuse it as being a lazy way to do things. It could be done a lot better. Like having stats matter instead of solely difference in level. Because of this defense is pretty much useless.

[Firon]

Doesn't excuse it as being a lazy way to do things. It could be done a lot better. Like having stats matter instead of solely difference in level. Because of this defense is pretty much useless.

Did you not read it's not lazy its present in every rpg's it part of formulas... Only thing they need to do is just use less of it and let stats do it's job and no one is defending i hate dlvl when it's used this bad. another game its used poorly would be borderlands if your lvl 10 trying to fight a lvl 15 monster your gonna loose no matter what. XI used it correctly and they can do the same here 80% of the ppl who play rpg's are not even aware of this thing cause most of the time is balanced right.

[Rydin]

No Dlvl is present in all rpg's games its not a relic thing its even used in the newest Wrpg's and newer Jrpg's. It was in XI but not to this extreme nature. Like in FF XI I went and poked jormy as a lvl 1 class and he didn't smack me for 9999 dmg but it was like for 1500 dmg.

It was one of the reasons in XI when a class had shit evasion like pld who could dodge a lot of attacks vs a mob who is like lvl 60 but if a class who has good evasion and they was lower Lvl than the pld but had the same evasion number as the 75 pld they would dodge less even tho the numbers was the same this is what Dlvl does it gives you slight edge vs lower lvl players/mobs but it should be to this extreme fashion in XIV.

Did you not read it's not lazy its present in every rpg's it part of formulas... Only thing they need to do is just use less of it and let stats do it's job and no one is defending i hate dlvl when it's used this bad. another game its used poorly would be borderlands if your lvl 10 trying to fight a lvl 15 monster your gonna loose no matter what. XI used it correctly and they can do the same here 80% of the ppl who play rpg's are not even aware of this thing cause most of the time is balanced right.

It is indeed in FFXI... and it was lazy in that
but it is not in all RPGs... not even all JRPG's...
Dlvl does not appear anywhere in the FFXII damage formulae
Theory debunked

Dlvl is indeed garbage and XI did not use it correctly

[Firon]

It is indeed in FFXI... and it was lazy in that
but it is not in all RPGs... not even all JRPG's...
Dlvl does not appear anywhere in the FFXII damage formulae
Theory debunked

Dlvl is indeed garbage and XI did not use it correctly

Rydin yes it does let me prove you wrong right now. this is a FF 12 damage formula right here.

Bows, Daggers and Ninja Swords: These depend upon speed and strength. These can give you an edge in battle in earlier levels because the speed stat grows very slowly in comparison to everything else.

DMG = [ATK x RANDOM(1~1.125)]- DEF] x [1 + STR x (Lv+SPD)/218]. what that means is since you don't gain lot s of stats in FF 12 you get damage Bonus from your lvl's, and guess what the higher lvl you are over a lower lvl monster the harder you rape them.

[Rydin]

Rydin yes it does let me prove you wrong right now. this is a FF 12 damage formula right here.

Bows, Daggers and Ninja Swords: These depend upon speed and strength. These can give you an edge in battle in earlier levels because the speed stat grows very slowly in comparison to everything else.

DMG = [ATK x RANDOM(1~1.125)]- DEF] x [1 + STR x (Lv+SPD)/218]. what that means is since you don't gain lot s of stats in FF 12 you get damage Bonus from your lvl's, and guess what the higher lvl you are over a lower lvl monster the harder you rape them.

Thats actually level... not level difference... the MOBs level does not factor into the formula... at all...

That formula doesn't decrease (edit: or increase) your damage based on enemy levels, it just makes you do more in a natural progression of ability that is gained with levels. It wrecks enemies that are low level because they have lower stats when compared to mobs of your own level or higher. There is no part of that particular formula that increases damage based on your level vs the mob level (that's what dlvl is). This weapon formula does more to mobs that are lower because their stats won't keep up enough to mitigate the damage.

Tl-Dr: Try again.

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