MSQ Capstone Fights - iLvl requirement set too high & fights skip content as a result

[TheMightyMollusk]

Nobody said minimum item level. Just not uncapped. Keep the fight closer to launch, rather than....well, go run Shinryu or Hades now and see how many mechanics get skipped because they just dissolve. (Leaving Thordan out because he was always a faceroll even when current.)

[Kazhar]

Lower the maximum ilvl people can join at so the fight can play out a bit more naturally. - turning an MSQ boss into a brick wall that they have to do again..and again...and again...

There is a very good reason why the number of people who want to be closet masochist with min ilevel and no echo is very, VERY small

All you will do is put new players off.

MSQ is story content, meant to be easy, meant to be clearable, it isnt savage, or extreme, or uitimate.

NO.

How does lowering the max ilvl makes the game unclearable for casual players? It was literally designed to be clearable by casual players at min ilvl. All non capstone trials are level synced in a very harsh way yet you cleared them and you were perfectly fine with their difficulty. Min ilvl Endsinger (which isn't even what people ask for, they just want the ilvl sync to be the same as it is during release) still won't be harder than current day Titania normal yet you all did the latter.
Were people who cleared Endsinger Normal the first four months after Endwalker was released "closet masochists"? Your logic makes no sense whatsoever.

There is a very good reason why the number of people who want to be closet masochist with min ilevel and no echo is very, VERY small

The very good reason is that there's no reward nor duty finder to do it.
People do content for rewards, and that includes casual content. Remove rewards and duty finder and ALL dungeons in the game get deserted.

[Gullis]

Lower the maximum ilvl people can join at so the fight can play out a bit more naturally. - turning an MSQ boss into a brick wall that they have to do again..and again...and again...

There is a very good reason why the number of people who want to be closet masochist with min ilevel and no echo is very, VERY small

All you will do is put new players off.

MSQ is story content, meant to be easy, meant to be clearable, it isnt savage, or extreme, or uitimate.

NO.

Someone asking for fights to be closer to their release, is not akin to asking for savage. Stop over reacting.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Wanting ilv requirement closer to the launch means wanting a fight with savage difficulty now?

Wild.

[Boblawblah]

Who is this for exactly? New players? They won't care if the fight is a bit shorter lol. They're not sitting there during a fight watching all the dialogue pop up on their screen, they're simply trying to stay alive. Casuals? They probably already know the story, and they definitely don't want it harder. I don't see who this benefits.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Who is this for exactly? New players? They won't care if the fight is a bit shorter lol. They're not sitting there during a fight watching all the dialogue pop up on their screen, they're simply trying to stay alive. Casuals? They probably already know the story, and they definitely don't want it harder. I don't see who this benefits.

Might as well remove battle dialogue and cutscenes in fights if youre going to express that attitude

[Boblawblah]

Might as well remove battle dialogue and cutscenes in fights if youre going to express that attitude

Could you give me an example of a mid-fight cutscene that is important for the story that is now never seen because of the power level of players?

[Atelier-Bagur]

Could you give me an example of a mid-fight cutscene that is important for the story that is now never seen because of the power level of players?

There's plenty of nice little character banter and dialogue in between the fight. Its the reason why they're starting to put in large portraits within their text boxes so that players can better notice them.

Its like having a nice little cake, but you request that the frosting be removed. Its all there to better present the fight both visually and narrative wise. People can skip it sure but plenty of other rpg nerds like myself can appreciate when game's do more with set dressing an encounter.

[Caddo]

You know.. I thought about this the other day when EW Boss fight died legit during the RP from you-know-whose and I'm like wait, half of them didn't even get to say the thing!

Could you give me an example of a mid-fight cutscene that is important for the story that is now never seen because of the power level of players?

Twitter boss legit dying before your pals can even say their voice lines and the music doesn't even get to Higher part is one I can immediately think of.

[Raim]

I mean a good example is the literal final boss of the MSQ now dies before the characters even say all their lines and the music phase transitions. The final fight in the Shoadowbringers 5.0 MSQ doesn't even get to hear its lines or the cool enrage. All these encounters are now like "I will now show you my true form-" then it dies 10 seconds later.