MSQ Capstone Fights - iLvl requirement set too high & fights skip content as a result

[Melorie]

I always found the whole "MSQ TRIALS ARE STORY CONTENT!!!! IT MUST BE EASY AAAAAA" so ridiculous because at 6.0 the trial was not hard to clear. You might wipe once or twice I suppose but aside from that... If you're playing a game and you die once and that's such a huge stress for you maybe you have some things to work on, huh.

At some point the "easy" of some people here must be "kill stuff in a half dozen skills without ever, ever, ever dying".

I'm so glad I started the game years ago and was able to get most of the bosses to actually say their lines and listen to their music. Also, I love how people act like new players aren't people that actually want to play the game and experience it. lol I feel bad for any friend of mine that is starting today, because they actually want to PLAY games.
Some days ago I landed on Orbonne and people wiped at Orleandeau and a guy said "wow, that's the first time i died!!" and was actually HAPPY. Imagine thinking that people also have your bad taste and want a snooze fest so you can play dressup.

Besides, you've played the story till that point, to have the ohh-last-boss melt in front of you makes for bad storytelling. The fight was designed to be cleared easily already. It doesn't need to suffer even more.

[Saraide]

How did you miss the point this hard.

This person will miss every point with surgical precision. It's intentional.

[ACE135]

Lower the maximum ilvl people can join at so the fight can play out a bit more naturally. - turning an MSQ boss into a brick wall that they have to do again..and again...and again...

There is a very good reason why the number of people who want to be closet masochist with min ilevel and no echo is very, VERY small

All you will do is put new players off.

MSQ is story content, meant to be easy, meant to be clearable, it isnt savage, or extreme, or uitimate.

NO.

The fights themself are part of the story, too. And a story where fighting an 'epic' boss at the climax is just a tiny fraction of what it was meant to be is a not so good story.

As others have said, the bosses are already designed for the story mode to 'honor' them with a proper fight.

[ValkyrieL]

I don't think you realize what a joke the fight are, they die in like a 2mins instead of there initial design of probably 6 mins.

MSQ are design with initial ivl requirements for each lvl cap 70/80 etc. At each lvl cap, 3 tiers of gear are released and players going in with highest tier gear will absolutely melt the end boss because it was meant to be kill with itial ivl tier.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Nobody said minimum item level. Just not uncapped. Keep the fight closer to launch, rather than....well, go run Shinryu or Hades now and see how many mechanics get skipped because they just dissolve. (Leaving Thordan out because he was always a faceroll even when current.)

[Kazhar]

Lower the maximum ilvl people can join at so the fight can play out a bit more naturally. - turning an MSQ boss into a brick wall that they have to do again..and again...and again...

There is a very good reason why the number of people who want to be closet masochist with min ilevel and no echo is very, VERY small

All you will do is put new players off.

MSQ is story content, meant to be easy, meant to be clearable, it isnt savage, or extreme, or uitimate.

NO.

How does lowering the max ilvl makes the game unclearable for casual players? It was literally designed to be clearable by casual players at min ilvl. All non capstone trials are level synced in a very harsh way yet you cleared them and you were perfectly fine with their difficulty. Min ilvl Endsinger (which isn't even what people ask for, they just want the ilvl sync to be the same as it is during release) still won't be harder than current day Titania normal yet you all did the latter.
Were people who cleared Endsinger Normal the first four months after Endwalker was released "closet masochists"? Your logic makes no sense whatsoever.

There is a very good reason why the number of people who want to be closet masochist with min ilevel and no echo is very, VERY small

The very good reason is that there's no reward nor duty finder to do it.
People do content for rewards, and that includes casual content. Remove rewards and duty finder and ALL dungeons in the game get deserted.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Wanting ilv requirement closer to the launch means wanting a fight with savage difficulty now?

Wild.

[Boblawblah]

Who is this for exactly? New players? They won't care if the fight is a bit shorter lol. They're not sitting there during a fight watching all the dialogue pop up on their screen, they're simply trying to stay alive. Casuals? They probably already know the story, and they definitely don't want it harder. I don't see who this benefits.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Who is this for exactly? New players? They won't care if the fight is a bit shorter lol. They're not sitting there during a fight watching all the dialogue pop up on their screen, they're simply trying to stay alive. Casuals? They probably already know the story, and they definitely don't want it harder. I don't see who this benefits.

Might as well remove battle dialogue and cutscenes in fights if youre going to express that attitude

[Boblawblah]

Might as well remove battle dialogue and cutscenes in fights if youre going to express that attitude

Could you give me an example of a mid-fight cutscene that is important for the story that is now never seen because of the power level of players?