Myths of the Realm Rewritten

[Absimiliard]

Umm...God's or godlike beings are generally always integral in FF games sooo...

If there's no reason for them to be integral (you know if we leave out their importance to the world be currectly have in XIV) then there's no reason to kill them off either (in this case there actually is no reason other than you personal distain).

Can't be tired of a troupe but then advocate for it. Just makes the entire thing pointless tbh. If he gods are that bad skip the raid and gear up elsewhere. You'd probably enjoy that far more

FF1, FF2, FF3, FF4, FF5, FF7, FF8, FF9, FF10

Just to name a few Final Fantasy games that had no need of gods or beings filling a similar niche. There are others. Point being, the gods are not "generally" integral. There are in fact more FF games that don't rely on them than those that do. Note: FF8's Hyne was only a myth, and FF9's Necron is not defined or presented as a god.

Ya'll really need to get over this, "oh, if you don't like it, go do different content/play a diifferent game/etc." business. That's not a great message to be sending to your fellow players. Besides, the only other gearing option is doing savages, which I already do on my NA alt. Why in the world would I want to do that on my EU alt? My ping on that character is on crack. Having a grievance with what I perceive as the needless inclusion of gods does not mean I shouldn't do do the content. The plot has nothing to do with mechanics.

This is the first and only time the Twelve have mattered (note: what Louisoix attempted to summon was not the Twelve but rather his own mental representation of them). They were just a myth prior to the 24-man, and they could've remained a myth without in any way damaging the game's preexisting lore. Primals aren't gods. Even Hydaelyn and Zodiark weren't gods, though they certainly wielded tremendous power.

[Zebraoracle]

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You can think what you want of the ARaid story all you want, that's your right. I'm not super interested in the current one myself, but I personally don't really care since it's an ARaid, to me it's just side content. However, and like I said earlier in this thread, OP is known for spouting off just complete negativity about the game to the point of being unhinged, like just look at his edgy teenager fanfic re-writing of the ARaid's story. Look at all of his previous threads. I've said it before and I'll continue saying it, I originally agreed with some of his points regarding EW's story. That doesn't mean I have to continue to agree with, or even defend, him now when all he's doing is being completely ridiculous. At this point, people come to these threads because of the clownfiesta that they are right out of the gate.

And look, he even did what I predicted he'd do in my first post in this thread - he only responds to people who agree with him, he's not here for discussion, he's not here for debate, he's here to complain and hear himself talk and commiserate with anyone who has remotely the same feelings as he does. How'd I predict it? Because he does it literally every single time he makes a complaint thread - because that's ALL he makes, whining about how awful 14 is and how back in the day it was so much better.

Do I disagree with you about being tired of gods in general? Not really. Do I see you making unhinged threads about it? Not at all. The entire "controversy" in this thread is because of who OP is and what his track record is. Go make a similar topic yourself, don't post a freaking teenage fanfic rewrite of the story, and actually bring up your points and be willing to discuss stuff with people, and I guarantee your thread will be like night and day to this one.

Im sorry but youre really stretching here with the no gods thing. I think the point of the posters argument is that every FF game you had to deal with ultimately powerful beings akin to gods. So Chaos, The Emperor, Cloud of Darkness, Zeromus, Exdeath, Sephiroth, Ultimecia, Necron, and Sin are just as prominent with their power as what we would perceive as "gods".

The typical jrpg formula is always has been this.

It's been a while since I've played any of the 1-10 games, but... what literal god was the villain of 6? Wasn't Kefka the final boss? I don't remember, but if we're describing him as a god... why not Chaos, Exdeath, and Sin? IIRC Sin was almost literally a god-like being. I don't know, like I said it's been a hot minute for me.

[TaleraRistain]

It's been a while since I've played any of the 1-10 games, but... what literal god was the villain of 6? Wasn't Kefka the final boss? I don't remember, but if we're describing him as a god... why not Chaos, Exdeath, and Sin? IIRC Sin was almost literally a god-like being. I don't know, like I said it's been a hot minute for me.

Kefka absorbed the power of the Warring Triad and by the time you fight him at the end he is the literal god of magic. His death destroys magic across that world. Terra only survives because she holds on to her half human side.

Necron

He's past god tier. He's the personification of entropy in the universe.

[Absimiliard]

He's past god tier. He's the personification of entropy in the universe.

The Cloud of Darkness is also something far beyond the power of most gods, not to mention Exdeath once he's been consumed by the Void in his game, Sephiroth after gorging himself on the lifestream, and even Chaos after consuming the power of the four fiends. Power is not what makes a god. Yes, they usually need to be extraordinarily powerful entities, but that isn't what what defines them as such - not entirely, anyway.

We can turn to Greek mythology for a good example; primordials, titans, and gods. All are presented totally differently despite wielding similar levels of power for the most part. The Greek primordials are often referred to as "primordial gods," but the ways in which they engage in the world are very different from those of the Olympian gods. They don't involve themselves in mortal affairs for the most part. Heck, most don't even involve themselves in Olympian affairs unless Zeus or one of his ilk do something incredibly stupid.

As readers may have inferred already, I find it far more compelling when the divine remains totally uninvolved outside of fulfilling some kind of purpose in the background. This was not always my opinion on the matter, but recent years have seen a tremendous oversaturation of stories about the gods shoving their hands in all the cookie jars, so to speak. It's become an ever-present trope, all but inescapable in modern media. Why do we need to constantly see what the gods are up to? Why must we know them? Why not leave them a mystery whilst mortals go on with their petty affairs? Sometimes, less is more.

[TaleraRistain]

The Cloud of Darkness is also something far beyond the power of most gods, not to mention Exdeath once he's been consumed by the Void in his game, Sephiroth after gorging himself on the lifestream, and even Chaos after consuming the power of the four fiends. Power is not what makes a god. Yes, they usually need to be extraordinarily powerful entities, but that isn't what what defines them as such - not entirely, anyway.

Most of those were actually defeated and no longer exist. Not Necron. Necron is the manifestation of an idea and it will always exist so long as life and death exist. In IX you don't defeat Necron. You just get it to go away.

It's really similar to Endsinger. We're not defeating despair. It's going to continue to exist. We just got it to stop going out and trying to eat the universe on purpose.