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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Eh, I prefer villains like Ilberd. He had a goal (Drag the WoL to free Ala Mingo) and accomplished it! Most of the bad guys they introduce had either tragic backstories or use their godpowers as if they are backed into a corner. Ilberd had a dragon's eye and singlehandedly shifted the attention of every leader of the Eorizean alliance to Ala Mingo. We need more bad guys like Ilberd, lol.
    Tbh XIV has many different types of bad guys from super complex ones to "har har we bhad" ones. Think the writers have done a good job there
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    I guess one can like the trope that the gods are all just evil and powerhungry and be disappointed that for once they are not, so even though I disagree with the story rewrite in that part I can accept that someone might find it awesome.

    But the ending...that ending...bascially all that rewriting is just there so that the Ascians can one day rise again as the surely great gods they were always meant to be...For someone that loves the story to be soo dark and gritty you surely want quite the happy ending for tragic characters.

    I am thankful for having the writing team we have on FF14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Eh, I prefer villains like Ilberd. He had a goal (Drag the WoL to free Ala Mingo) and accomplished it! Most of the bad guys they introduce had either tragic backstories or use their godpowers as if they are backed into a corner. Ilberd had a dragon's eye and singlehandedly shifted the attention of every leader of the Eorizean alliance to Ala Mingo. We need more bad guys like Ilberd, lol.
    Oh yeah totally, I also much better prefer grounded villians. Even better when the final boss isnt all powerful, but my point was that each final boss in the FF series and in a lot of other jrpgs achieve some level of "godhood" which is where the trope comes from.
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    Another Aveyond Thread. I tag this as such for a reason.

    Move along, nothing to see here people...except food and Hrothgar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Another Aveyond Thread. I tag this as such for a reason.

    Move along, nothing to see here people...except food and Hrothgar.
    We should turn it into another hrothgar thread! Where's Mide at to post his boi???

    Here's some art I had done of mine. Hell, if anyone else has had art done of their characters, post it, I wanna see!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    We should turn it into another hrothgar thread! Where's Mide at to post his boi???

    Here's some art I had done of mine. Hell, if anyone else has had art done of their characters, post it, I wanna see!!!

    Can I get a link?
    Im always looking for new artists to commission in the future
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Can I get a link?
    Im always looking for new artists to commission in the future
    I'll see if I can find a way to link him to you, I can't remember his stuff LOL. Messaged him on discord to ask for it. I'll edit this post if I get a response.

    EDIT: I sadly don't have a SFW link I can post here as the artist has kind of gone uh... pretty heavy on the NSFW stuff.

    His name's Sorren though, if you want to seek him out somehow.
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    Last edited by Zebraoracle; 02-23-2023 at 05:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    FF1, FF2, FF3, FF4, FF5, FF7, FF8, FF9, FF10

    Just to name a few Final Fantasy games that had no need of gods or beings filling a similar niche.
    FF10 revolves completely around religion and the end of it has you
    fight Yu Yevon, god of the religion of the world.


    Hydaelyn and Zodiark also may not have been ACTUAL gods, but that didn’t stop the Ascians from specifically calling Zodiark “the one true god” since ARR and treating him as such. Zodiark is one in the truest sense of the game’s world since he actually had powers to rewrite the fabric of reality.

    While we now know they, other primals, and FFX’s example aren’t gods, that didn’t stop people from believing they were with whole theologies built around them, and we even have a line in SB where we tell the Kojin that we’ll “kill their god”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    FF10 revolves completely around religion and the end of it has you
    fight Yu Yevon, god of the religion of the world.


    Hydaelyn and Zodiark also may not have been ACTUAL gods, but that didn’t stop the Ascians from specifically calling Zodiark “the one true god” since ARR and treating him as such. Zodiark is one in the truest sense of the game’s world since he actually had powers to rewrite the fabric of reality.

    While we now know they, other primals, and FFX’s example aren’t gods, that didn’t stop people from believing they were with whole theologies built around them, and we even have a line in SB where we tell the Kojin that we’ll “kill their god”.
    Calling something a god doesn't make it a god. Something being worshipped as a god also doesn't make it a god. A creature possessing the power of a god doesn't make it a god either. It's all in the presentation.
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    Last edited by Absimiliard; 02-23-2023 at 05:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Calling something a god doesn't make it a god. Something being worshipped as a god also doesn't make it a god. A creature possessing the power of a god doesn't make it a god either. It's all in the presentation.
    god
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    noun
    ˈgäd also ˈgȯd
    pluralgods
    Synonyms of god
    1
    God : the supreme or ultimate reality: such as
    a
    : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped (as in Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism) as creator and ruler of the universe
    Throughout the patristic and medieval periods, Christian theologians taught that God created the universe …
    —Jame Schaefer
    … the Supreme Being or God, the personal form of the Ultimate Reality, is conceived by Hindus as having various aspects.
    —Sunita Pant Bansal
    b
    Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind
    2
    or less commonly God : a being or object that is worshipped as having more than natural attributes and powers
    specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality
    Greek gods of love and war
    3
    : a person or thing of supreme value
    had photos of baseball's gods pinned to his bedroom wall
    4
    : a powerful ruler
    Hollywood gods that control our movies' fates
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