Zenos will return in 7.0

[hobostew]

I don't want him back in the MSQ but I think it'd be funny to see him occasionally drinking his sorrows away at the bar in Ultima Thule

[SassyAssassin]

Yes I can totally imagine Zenos drinking trying to forget about Roni and me :3

[ronibosch]

Yes I can totally imagine Zenos drinking trying to forget about Roni and me :3

Oh god, I love you so much, Sassy. xD

[Burmecia]

They come up with some weasely "but he is zenos from other shard" explanation.

But if he is loporrit, then i guess it is fine.

[Aneshda]

Gimme my Zenos back. This World is so damn boring without him.

[Heavenchild]

Please no...
Zenos story is one part of the whole lore that does not really made any sense...

For example: Why they needed an Ultima Weapon, when their prince is so strong that he wins against us easily, after we destroyed Ultima Weapon and fought the dragonwars? :')
And why is this guy whining that our life is so much better than his life? I mean..., Zenos is so powerfull, that he could have done everything he ever wanted. Who should have stopped him? He had the chance to become an adventurer, too. A singer, a botanist or whatever. Nobody could have stopped him. But he decided to become a mad whining murderer. No I don't want this character back.

Give instead beloved potato Papalymo back. <3
I would be so happy to see the little guy back. He and his sacrifiy got too less attention.

[Absimiliard]

Please no...
Zenos story is one part of the whole lore that does not really made any sense...

For example: Why they needed an Ultima Weapon, when their prince is so strong that he wins against us easily, after we destroyed Ultima Weapon and fought the dragonwars? :')
And why is this guy whining that our life is so much better than his life? I mean..., Zenos is so powerfull, that he could have done everything he ever wanted. Who should have stopped him? He had the chance to become an adventurer, too. A singer, a botanist or whatever. Nobody could have stopped him. But he decided to become a mad whining murderer. No I don't want this character back.

The most logical (and seemingly accurate) explanation for why Zenos didn't get involved with Eorzea sooner is simply that it wasn't his row to hoe. Someone that "done" with life isn't exactly going to go out of his way to intervene on behalf of another ranking Garlean officer without a very good reason, and at that time the WoL was likely beneath his notice.

As for why a man with all that power wouldn't just go do whatever he wanted? Lack of drive. It was made known to us that Zenos's childhood was uh... horrible, to put it bluntly. He was vastly superior to all of his peers, and even the man chosen to teach him the art of the sword could only hold an edge over him due to the Garlean people's inherent deficiency in manipulating aether. Zenos was so determined to master his teacher's skills that he shoved crystals into his flesh, allowing him to utilize their aether. With this, he proceeded to slay his instructor with the man's own technique. It would be the last time he felt much of anything until meeting the WoL, an individual in whom he saw a great rival.

Being raised as a child soldier, or in his case a child supersoldier, kinda robs you of a lot of perspective. There are a great many things in the world you're like as not never going to consider pursuing, and life paths other than those thrust upon you by your caretakers are pretty high on that last. His upbringing aside (noting also that he had caretakers/handlers, as his parents couldn't be arsed to bother with him), his unusual abilities more or less meant he was a pariah. Not just to others, but even in his own mind. He knew he wasn't like them. Prodigious talent has a way of alienating people to an insane degree, unfortunately.

[Heavenchild]

I can't remember that we got to know much about Zenos past 'in' the game. And for me the 'bad childhood' argument is too weak. It's the standard villain. Bad because of bad. In my personal opinion Zenos was a very boring whining character. And I don't get all the fans of this mad murderer.

If they bring him back, this would be really frustrating to me. But hey, it's not about me! I am afraid it's more about fanservice and people who decided to like this murderer. xD

If I could choose, I would like to see Papalymo back. He was a good and funny guy and belongs to the story since 1.0. and the Gridania starters from this time lost a lot.
Papalymo, and somehow also Yda.
I have still hope! I know it's silly, but I still have hope to see him again. : )

[Absimiliard]

I figure both Zenos and Papalymo are gone for good. Zenos died in Ultima Thul, which is a long way from home. It's doubtful his soul could return to Etheirys. A manifestation of Papalymo appears briefly in the aetherial sea in the form of Tupsimati, which you may recall was responsible for aiding the party in dealing with Ilberd. That's pretty much all that remains of him, I figure. Between the way he died and the length of time he's been in the lifestream, there's probably nothing left to bring back.

[Heavenchild]

I figure both Papalymo is given a brief cameo in the aetherial sea manifested in the form of Tupsimati, which you may recall was responsible for aiding the party in dealing with Ilberd. That's pretty much all that remains of him, I figure. Between the way he died and the length of time he's been in the lifestream, there's probably nothing left to bring back.

I know. But I think about what happend at the end of Abyssos raid story. Maybe also the aetherial sea don't has to be the really end. The hope is small, but I still have it. : )