Need advice: static imploding because of cheater.

[Stormpeaks]

You would only do it then because you know you wouldn't be caught. If there was a chance you could be caught, you wouldn't do it. Just knowing they can give you a ticket.

It's the same with mods. People know they are "illegal", so they hide them. Don't need to hide something if it's okay.

I mean in the end it is okay since they arent banned, so? Where is the problem ? The day it's enforced and everyone with ACT or other things of the likes, and plugins and mods get all banned, I'll agree with you.

Until then, what other people do is not my problem, if they want to play from the ISS, if they want to play with callouts, if they want to play naked, it aint my issue, its theirs. There is no risk for me if I dont use them so what they do doesnt bother me.

[CrimsonThunder]

I think the crux of the issue is the classic imposing one personal belief on another. Sure mods are breaking the ToS and some are cheating thing is some people just don't care or refuse to accept it.

Thing is I do not think we should promote witch hunting because people are breaking the rules especially where it really has no negative impact on others.

This is like the animal crossing star tree drama, where people would go and look for worlds that had star trees and report them because they modified their game which broke the ToS.

Live and let live, if people want to cheat let 'em not saying you have to be okay with it. Don't associate, or acknowledge their wins but no need to treat them like they are monsters and wish D
Divine punishment on them.

If I knew for a fact someone was cheating whether it affects me or not and did nothing about it then I'm complicit in their actions and indirectly support their choices which does bother me as I have no desire to be apart of that. That is my choice as much as it is theirs to cheat.

[CrimsonThunder]

I mean in the end it is okay since they arent banned, so? Where is the problem ? The day it's enforced and everyone with ACT or other things of the likes, and plugins and mods get all banned, I'll agree with you.

Until then, what other people do is not my problem, if they want to play from the ISS, if they want to play with callouts, if they want to play naked, it aint my issue, its theirs. There is no risk for me if I dont use them so what they do doesnt bother me.

Let me ask a hypothetical question, if we did lose Ultimate over these players and potentially others down the line would that not bother you in any way?

[Stormpeaks]

If I knew for a fact someone was cheating whether it affects me or not and did nothing about it then I'm complicit in their actions and indirectly support their choices which does bother me as I have no desire to be apart of that. That is my choice as much as it is theirs to cheat.

Oh no, whatever will happen ? You are "complicit" of their actions, are you going to end up behind bars and go to court because someone else used a zoom hack or made them glam look cuter than their character is ?

Let me ask a hypothetical question, if we did lose Ultimate over these players and potentially others down the line would that not bother you in any way?

It would, yes, but that wouldnt be because of "these players", it would be because of Yoshi P and every dev that was involved in taking that decision. If we have to remove every piece of content that can be ""cheated"", then remove roulettes,pvp,extremes,ultimates,crafting and gathering, and let us just sit in limsa all day.

[Kolaina]

It would, yes, but that wouldnt be because of "these players", it would be because of Yoshi P and every dev that was involved in taking that decision. If we have to remove every piece of content that can be ""cheated"", then remove roulettes,pvp,extremes,ultimates,crafting and gathering, and let us just sit in limsa all day.

It would be because of players who chose to cheat. Instead of getting rid of things that can be cheated, get rid of the cheaters. Makes far more sense than your tantrum of an approach

[Stormpeaks]

It would be because of players who chose to cheat. Instead of getting rid of things that can be cheated, get rid of the cheaters. Makes far more sense than your tantrum of an approach

lmao oh give me a break, there is no need to remove content because people use a zoom hack or use mods to look better on their screen

stop with the excuses

[CrimsonThunder]

Oh no, whatever will happen ? You are "complicit" of their actions, are you going to end up behind bars and go to court because someone else used a zoom hack or made them glam look cuter than their character is ?

We both know I'm not talking about glam mods or anything of the sort. You're just reaching at that point.

[Stormpeaks]

We both know I'm not talking about glam mods or anything of the sort. You're just reaching at that point.

I said hacks too

[CrimsonThunder]

I said hacks too

And if you don't think it constitutes an advantage of any sort then that's fine but there are those who disagree. You're not going to change any minds here and vice versa so this is all just noise anyway.

[Stormpeaks]

And if you don't think it constitutes an advantage of any sort then that's fine but there are those who disagree. You're not going to change any minds here and vice versa so this is all just noise anyway.

That's not what I said, I just said it doesnt impact me personally if someone uses it because I wouldnt even know it