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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Wait... folks actually reads which title other player use...?
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    Absimiliard's Avatar
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    Cassius Rex
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Wait... folks actually reads which title other player use...?
    It's important to. You can usually gauge how poorly a run is about to go based on the number of people in it wearing a Legend title. Much like the BK crown, those titles are cursed.
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    It's important to. You can usually gauge how poorly a run is about to go based on the number of people in it wearing a Legend title. Much like the BK crown, those titles are cursed.
    My boyfriend who has played MMOs far longer than I have, said that anything related to really high prestige will lose its sheen over time - not necessarily because the content gets easier, but the content becomes less relevant the older it becomes. People who truly care about their achievement eventually swap off it outside of the first month of that content coming out. The later someone flexes that they cleared the content, for example keeping a The Legend title in current time, the more it implies that they did it for the bragging rights (or maybe even got carried).
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    ZephyrMenodora's Avatar
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    My boyfriend who has played MMOs far longer than I have, said that anything related to really high prestige will lose its sheen over time - not necessarily because the content gets easier, but the content becomes less relevant the older it becomes. People who truly care about their achievement eventually swap off it outside of the first month of that content coming out. The later someone flexes that they cleared the content, for example keeping a The Legend title in current time, the more it implies that they did it for the bragging rights (or maybe even got carried).
    Definitely agree prestige has a very limited shelf life before the same items/accomplishments become more commonplace/mundane. It's especially true in XIV with the unsyncing which you can trivialize content but get old mounts/gear.

    I also agree with the other posters who pointed out that buying clears is also not very impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    My boyfriend who has played MMOs far longer than I have, said that anything related to really high prestige will lose its sheen over time - not necessarily because the content gets easier, but the content becomes less relevant the older it becomes. People who truly care about their achievement eventually swap off it outside of the first month of that content coming out. The later someone flexes that they cleared the content, for example keeping a The Legend title in current time, the more it implies that they did it for the bragging rights (or maybe even got carried).
    Actually I wear my Legend titles almost exclusively until we get clear the next Ultimate, to me the weight they have representing the work and the memory me and my boys put into those fights outweighs any title I can get on my own merits. It saddens me that I will likely get lumped into the Legend memes but I care less about that over the pride I have in my team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonThunder View Post
    Actually I wear my Legend titles almost exclusively until we get clear the next Ultimate, to me the weight they have representing the work and the memory me and my boys put into those fights outweighs any title I can get on my own merits. It saddens me that I will likely get lumped into the Legend memes but I care less about that over the pride I have in my team.
    I have 100% respect for this.
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    Absimiliard's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonThunder View Post
    Actually I wear my Legend titles almost exclusively until we get clear the next Ultimate, to me the weight they have representing the work and the memory me and my boys put into those fights outweighs any title I can get on my own merits. It saddens me that I will likely get lumped into the Legend memes but I care less about that over the pride I have in my team.
    This wouldn't be a problem if the people wearing those titles weren't awful at the game most of the time. Note I say the people wearing them, not the people that have them. Granted, I think part of it can be attributed to overconfidence. Not everyone that wears the title bought it, I think we all know that. Of those that didn't but still choose to wear it all the time, overconfidence often seems to bite them in the behind.

    Doesn't matter how good you are. The second you become overconfident, something can and will come along to make you look like an idiot.
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    Mcg55ss's Avatar
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    Sirk Raven
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    Maduin
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    I lead a raiding static, we are doing TOP and got to phase 3. Alt character for anonymity purposes

    Recently a member streamed and showed himself using a zoomhack, so I swiftly and immediately kicked him from the static, reported him and blocked him.

    Yet now after 3 days trying to find a replacement, some members of the static started arguing with me and 2 of them left.

    They say that it was petty of me to eff over the progress of 6 other people just to get rid of a cheater.

    They say that it's okay that he cheats because he kept to himself and never talked about it.

    My other raiding friends also told me what I did was a really bad idea.

    So now the group that was going so well is breaking apart and it's my fault, however I don't think I did anything wrong, cheating is forbidden by the ToS.
    I'm bored so I'll bite, no you did nothing wrong in fact you should have reported them however kicking them is a problem if you don't have a replacement. Now you got to try to find a new person that needs a static that fits your days and time that is on the same level progress as you and mesh well as a group. So because you have all these variables finding a replacement could take a long time. No one really has to know that you reported anybody but if you still felt the need to remove him from the group you should have talked to other members, let them know before you kicked him that he's cheating and it you know it's a problematic, possibly work on finding a replacement ready to jump in so you're not suffering any downtime looking. In the end also get your group's opinion. Maybe he was well liked in the group and they would prefer to try to request that he stopped using these plugins when progressing content with them and that might have been all it needed to happen.
    In the end you didn't do anything wrong however you didn't do anything right by taking everybody else's feelings or consideration into it. That is your biggest issue is you hurt six other people because of your decision to make it alone. To be fair though I mean this is a common thing in MMOs groups may have an individual's time change work schedule, may fluctuate sometimes, something personal might happen in their life and you have to find a replacement so for the group to fall apart just over this kind of makes me think your group wasn't going to last long anyway and if you had any issue come up you would be in the same boat. Don't stress about it learn from mistake, remember that to be a good and liked leader one of the main things you must do is communicate to everybody and try to keep everybody informed. Live and learn, it'll go better next time
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    Saraide Derosa
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    There are many things taking away the prestige and it's a subjective thing anyway. Someone blind progging can always claim to have more prestige than someone else who just followed a guide. The longer content is released the more likely it is to have better strats developed compared to the earlier clears. And then there is the ever present potency creep. Even if i was to get a blind prog group together for an old ultimate or savage (on MINE), I can not dodge potency creep. I can not bring back aggro management. Unless you are the literal world first achievers you can always have your prestige invalidated by the person ahead of you. None of the rewards reflect this.
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Ultros
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    You guys have titles? I guess I never see that stuff because I disable all nameplates haha. I honestly forgot titles were a thing.
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