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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    It might be possible for someone experienced or actively involved in making gil. But as a relatively new player when I hear from friends particular wards have been empty or semi empty for weeks, or in some cases months, my perception is that these plots aren't going to get filled at a satisfactory rate. The demand simply is not there. And I don't agree that new FCs will pop up. I think any FCS holding out right now want MD and LG houses and that problem is simply never going to go away. Hopefully you are correct and the next patch will have updates. However I am going to complain wherever I can not to be obnoxious, but because I want my voice to be counted when devs are reviewing player feedback. You are correct that opening up more private bidding will mean more houses get bought, but I don't see that as a problem. FC housing does not need to remove entirely, the ratio simply needs to be re balanced in favor of private buyers. Demand for housing is obviously higher than availability so there will be never be a perfect solution, but our current solution just does not work imo.
    It already is balanced in favor of private buyers, the fc wards are only 7 (1 to 6) and ward 30 for fc only, that makes it 7 wards out of 30 are fc only, the rest is hybrid or personal only. And as the post you quoted said, those houses will fill in a single round, it's not a solution.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    It already is balanced in favor of private buyers, the fc wards are only 7 (1 to 6) and ward 30 for fc only, that makes it 7 wards out of 30 are fc only, the rest is hybrid or personal only. And as the post you quoted said, those houses will fill in a single round, it's not a solution.
    That's because they already converted a whole lot of those FC-only wards to allow private buyers as well, because there weren't any FCs buying those plots after months. When Empyreum released 18 out of 24 wards were FC only, this was retroactively applied to all housing districts and then had to be changed again, turns out there aren't actually that many FCs that wanted a plot.

    It also just gave rise to a massive amount of 1 person FCs because why would I compete with 30+ people per private plot when I can just make an FC and easily get one in the exclusive wards?
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 02-19-2023 at 09:42 PM.

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    Kedha Elakha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    turns out there aren't actually that many FCs that wanted a plot.
    That want a small plot. Considering my neighbor is sitting on a personal large that he does nothing with (said he got it just because he could), I am cool with FCs having a bit of protection for a few months until things balance out. There are so many indiv buyers out there. Of course I am also on Mateus, so empty wards on other DCs leave me gobsmacked.
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by winter_rose View Post
    That want a small plot. Considering my neighbor is sitting on a personal large that he does nothing with (said he got it just because he could), I am cool with FCs having a bit of protection for a few months until things balance out. There are so many indiv buyers out there. Of course I am also on Mateus, so empty wards on other DCs leave me gobsmacked.
    Then they should make wards with special, different restrictions, with only medium and large houses that are restricted to FCs only.

    One per account per server. I'd go so far as restrict to so that those with multiple accounts can't do it.

    FC must have X amount of people in it. X being subjective, but definitely not 4 low level alts.

    Anything to prevent people from hogging the entire ward.
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    Then they should make wards with special, different restrictions, with only medium and large houses that are restricted to FCs only.

    One per account per server. I'd go so far as restrict to so that those with multiple accounts can't do it.

    FC must have X amount of people in it. X being subjective, but definitely not 4 low level alts.

    Anything to prevent people from hogging the entire ward.
    People who don't want to be in a large FC shouldn't be punished for that nor should they be forced to socialize with people they don't want to for the sake of a house. People who suggest this just bring jealousy as a motivator to my mind since it feels like they want everyone else to be in the same boat as them since they cant/won't leave their own FC. People who have a small friend group have the same right to own a house as those with a large one.

    Also, I had a thought. If we drop ward restrictions, wouldn't the problem just be worse since instead of only having private buyers in one ward and FC buyers in another, you'd have both colliding to bid on houses in the same ward, i.e. providing more competition?
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 02-28-2023 at 08:37 PM.

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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    People who don't want to be in a large FC shouldn't be punished for that nor should they be forced to socialize with people they don't want to for the sake of a house. People who suggest this just bring jealousy as a motivator to my mind since it feels like they want everyone else to be in the same boat as them since they cant/won't leave their own FC. People who have a small friend group have the same right to own a house as those with a large one.

    Also, I had a thought. If we drop ward restrictions, wouldn't the problem just be worse since instead of only having private buyers in one ward and FC buyers in another, you'd have both colliding to bid on houses in the same ward, i.e. providing more competition?
    It was a suggestion based on the fact that people are making shell FCs to get personal houses, which should not be a case if they make a ward for FCs only with larger houses in it.

    My FC has a medium house and I have a small that I'm quite pleased with, so there's no jealousy here. Only serious suggestions.
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