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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    All I will say is I've seen other threads on this subject and you've been similarly dismissive. Maybe I am wrong and I'd be happy to have another person who supports adjusting the bidding allowances considering there are multiple dead wards across most worlds.
    The only thing I am dismissive of is instanced housing because of reasons I explained many times on those threads, I am not agaisnt fc wards eventually turning into hybrid personal/fc, however if you or anyone else have high hopes that this will help in the long term, it wont, those houses will fill in a single round, and then back to normal no houses or barely any available. It's not a long term solution, and actually not even a solution at all.

    All that will do is lock up every new FC from getting a house as the choices of wards will be extremely limited and people are not moving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    The only thing I am dismissive of is instanced housing because of reasons I explained many times on those threads, I am not agaisnt fc wards eventually turning into hybrid personal/fc, however if you or anyone else have high hopes that this will help in the long term, it wont, those houses will fill in a single round, and then back to normal no houses or barely any available. It's not a long term solution, and actually not even a solution at all.

    All that will do is lock up every new FC from getting a house as the choices of wards will be extremely limited and people are not moving.
    Agreed. But as I just said in another reply, there will never be a perfect solution. As far as new FCs being locked out, I would hope that the FC only wards are protected to some degree to prevent that from happening. To be fair, I don't think private only wards should even exist. I think it should be hybird OR FC. But that's another topic. As far as a solution to new FCs being locked out-- on my server I have noticed that demolishing has opened up some availability per bidding round. Maybe new FCs could get some kind of priority queue based on new availability that happens in the middle of a bidding period instead of shuffling those new lots directly to bidders. And you may say "Well then all the new plots that open up will go to FCs" -- ok. Well at least then every ward will be full and everyone will have fair shot. At worst, both new FCs and private buyers will be waiting in that case.

    This issue I have with several posts going on is you guys are relying on a theoretical that we are not observing currently. And no, no solution will be perfect because there are too many private buyers. Hence why I am suggesting why don't we figure out some way to get more private buyers in houses and then, as I said, worry about who is waiting. It doesn't matter if it's 5% or 10% more private buying opportunity, any % is better than current despite the fact new lots will be filled faster than we can blink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    That's because they already converted a whole lot of those FC-only wards to allow private buyers as well, because there weren't any FCs buying those plots after months. When Empyreum released 18 out of 24 wards were FC only, this was retroactively applied to all housing districts and then had to be changed again, turns out there aren't actually that many FCs that wanted a plot.

    It also just gave rise to a massive amount of 1 person FCs because why would I compete with 30+ people per private plot when I can just make an FC and easily get one in the exclusive wards?
    In a way, we can see this as an effort made by the developers to "encourage" social interactions between players through the need for more FCs to be made
    At least that's one way of looking at the problem...

    I think they should have created instanced housing within the island. The island area is already instantiated anyway and would at least partially reduce this problem. But, I think they will continue to encourage social interactions by forcing people to have FCs before they have houses xD (yep, i'm just kidding). I really can't see how and what they could do to fix the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I "defend" FC only wards ? What ?

    All I said is that it's nice to not have wards be overloaded with paissas carbuncles chocobos and gingerbreads, and not opening to personal does just that, apparently you took it to heart for some reason, not sure what to tell you
    My FC on Excalibur had a Moogle house for a very long time.

    Large one, too.

    FCs are not immune to goofy houses. Mine's the florist shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    My FC on Excalibur had a Moogle house for a very long time.

    Large one, too.

    FCs are not immune to goofy houses. Mine's the florist shop.
    The florist shop one is very cute though especially in LB,but it also fits in other areas.
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    I think this is something the team would have to look at individually, world by world rather than a sweeping game change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    The florist shop one is very cute though especially in LB,but it also fits in other areas.
    It's in Shiro.

    And if you want to go on about houses, the bright cherry pink Shiro houses in Empy are tackier than even the paissa house to me.

    That said, I'm using the new bathhouse walls.
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    It's time to update housing. I lost the most recent lottery to an FC. Given the context of this discussion this is ridiculous. My world has tons of vacant 0 bid houses for FCs. Something needs to change. I would rather have no hope than some hope in a system that makes no sense.

    And it is an FC not a private buyer who made an FC just to get a Sm house.
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    Everyone grab your pretzels and carrot sticks because its time for me to repeat these magic words that will solve all of our problems. Clap your hands together and say it with me, ready on 3? One ,two and three!

    "Instanced Housing"

    Very good!! Im so proud of all of you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Everyone grab your pretzels and carrot sticks because its time for me to repeat these magic words that will solve all of our problems. Clap your hands together and say it with me, ready on 3? One ,two and three!

    "Instanced Housing"

    Very good!! Im so proud of all of you
    Why not have both options?
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