What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Kozh]

Yeah, it's about three more left until 6.4. God, it feels like it's already been three months since 6.3 seeing how all of the 6.3 content was practically DOA or just weekly chores (and the MSQ was very short in length and did almost nothing to build upon the story, making it very forgettable). I genuinely can't understand the people who think four months per patch is acceptable.

To be fair, we still have new relic grind in 6.35...
But honestly, they should've release relic in 6.3, to make it less barren

[aveyond-dreams]

To think around this time back in Shadowbringers we were speculating about what the Bozja mural depicted, if it was Asura or not, etc. but all the relic is giving this time around is Hildibrand and from the looks of it, Dr. Luage chasing Godbert with a robot. Because yes lets turn the doctor who made chimeras of Edge's parents in FFIV into a quirky joke. All of it for a Poetic grind at the end of the day or if they're feeling particularly daring, they might even send people into the long forgotten Criterion dungeons that they left to rot.

Remember when we also used to get beast tribes on official patch day and not the .5 patch? Though I suppose in this case its a blessing because I don't think I can physically stomach whatever writing they came up with for the KPOP rats of the moon. If only those abominable creatures faded away with Hydaelyn's death but instead they lived to become what has got to be this game's most annoying mascots.

[Carin-Eri]

To think around this time back in Shadowbringers we were speculating about what the Bozja mural depicted, if it was Asura or not, etc. but all the relic is giving this time around is Hildibrand and from the looks of it, Dr. Luage chasing Godbert with a robot. Because yes lets turn the doctor who made chimeras of Edge's parents in FFIV into a quirky joke. All of it for a Poetic grind at the end of the day or if they're feeling particularly daring, they might even send people into the long forgotten Criterion dungeons that they left to rot.

Have to admit, I've had my fill of Godbert Manderville. I, personally, don't find the (very tired) routine of him shredding his clothes in favor of running around in his underpants funny in the least and generally hit 'skip' as soon as possible any time a cutscene that involves his predictable, unfunny, antics appears.

[FlatLined]

Stopped caring about the relic quest after Heavensward now I just skip everything.

[AwesomeJr44]

Have to admit, I've had my fill of Godbert Manderville. I, personally, don't find the (very tired) routine of him shredding his clothes in favor of running around in his underpants funny in the least and generally hit 'skip' as soon as possible any time a cutscene that involves his predictable, unfunny, antics appears.

I'm at this point with most of the jokes in the Manderville quests. A handful of them are funny but a lot of them are either unfunny or have been made so many times that they've lost their punch.

[Vyrerus]

Yeah, with how little we're getting these days, it is pretty hard to stay excited and speculative. Even speculation on the events we did get were chewed into cud by a week or two after 6.3 landed. I hope the next forms of the Manderville relic look really cool. I'm all in on Manderville comedy, as it's some of the most over the top best stuff the game offers, because it knows exactly what its wheelhouse is, and I have no expectations of those characters other than they remain silly as all get out.

It's kind of hilarious to me though. Whether people enjoy EW or hate it, it seems like folks on both sides of that lane either entirely love or entirely hate Hildibrand related stuff. It's like the one thing people who otherwise don't see eye to eye can agree on.

(Psst, c'mon, let's stretch it to 800.)

[aveyond-dreams]

If people want to have Hildibrand content there's nothing wrong with that. But when you turn the relic into a joke after chasing out the fleshed out plotline we had going for it in Bozja that we didn't even get to finish, the Alliance Raid is turned into little more than a joke as well, the MSQ can only alternate between long stretches of boredom broken up by the occasional slice of life/comedy scene, and the moon is set to become a circus with singing rats like the movie Coraline then it all becomes way too much.

FFXIV needs to get serious already and contain Hildibrand humour to the Hildibrand questline.

[KageTokage]

It does kind of bug me a little that we're essentially being denied both a trial storyline and a relic storyline due to them now being baked into the MSQ and Hildibrand respectively.

Hopefully it's just a temporary thing and not how they intent to structure the content going forward.

[Absimiliard]

I for one would certainly prefer the game take on a more serious tone. I would like to see lasting consequences, tangible losses, and removal of the plot armor protecting the primary cast. I'm not saying I believe they should start killing characters just to kill them, but I do find the knowledge none of main cast are ever in any real danger detracts from my ability to enjoy the story. Throwing Hildebrand in on top of this was not something I particularly enjoyed. Perhaps the humor would've been more welcome had there been a darker overall tone for it to contrast.

That they chose to forgo the usual means of acquiring relic weapons in favor of something so asinine was just the icing on the cake, I suppose. Not to mention the relics being virtually worthless.

[Midareyukki]

But when you turn the relic into a joke after chasing out the fleshed out plotline we had going for it in Bozja that we didn't even get to finish

We did technically finish Bozja's story... in post-it notes.

Bozja being free was something Gabranth expected bc he wanted someone who liked the Garlean rule to make a constitution.
Sicinius gets arrested in Dalmasca, blabs about what he did to Dabog Invisch and several other Hrothgar, then he's busted out by Pagaga and Lyon.
Gabranth dies and Lyon is blamed for it (at least publicly).
Thanks to Sicinius realizing he can transfer memories to another Hyur's body and disfigure it to look like him, Gabranth is being spotted all across Dalmasca despite being "dead".

The next thing we need to know is what Gabranth wants to do after. Which ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is up in the air. Yasumi Matsuno's gone, so we don't really know if they will or won't do the next chapter in Dalmasca.

I for one would certainly prefer the game take on a more serious tone. I would like to see lasting consequences, tangible losses, and removal of the plot armor protecting the primary cast. I'm not saying I believe they should start killing characters just to kill them, but I do find the knowledge none of main cast are ever in any real danger detracts from my ability to enjoy the story. Throwing Hildebrand in on top of this was not something I particularly enjoyed. Perhaps the humor would've been more welcome had there been a darker overall tone for it to contrast.

That they chose to forgo the usual means of acquiring relic weapons in favor of something so asinine was just the icing on the cake, I suppose. Not to mention the relics being virtually worthless.

Last time we had a thread asking for that, people started complaining that the story being edgy, angsty or too serious made it boring and they couldn't focus :s