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  1. #71
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    ZephyrMenodora's Avatar
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I got to quest with and spar with Menphina, so yes.

    Also the 4 Fiends theme remix was amazing.

    I'm a happy camper as a casual with still a lot of jobs to level to keep me busy in between weekly clears and tomestone capping.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 02-17-2023 at 01:03 AM.

  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    To be honest, I envy the most casual players. Those, who sub, do new content for month and then have 3 months break have it best. Others gonna wait for new content while paying half of the new AAA game.
    Don't take this the wrong way, but if you envy them, why don't you be them?
    If there's nothing you want to play in the game, why play the game?

    Not trying to take a dig, just curious what keeps you around if by your own admittance, there isn't really anything gameplay wise.
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  3. #73
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    I don't know! I started a fresh alt and am going through ARR right now. Having a lot of fun though!
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
    Don't take this the wrong way, but if you envy them, why don't you be them?
    If there's nothing you want to play in the game, why play the game?

    Not trying to take a dig, just curious what keeps you around if by your own admittance, there isn't really anything gameplay wise.
    Dunno if you have read my post, but Im progging new ultimate, so I dedicated myself into, that I cant. So Im helping other people clear old savages and other content etc just to fill that void. Maybe its not about "enough of content", but more of "how fun is the new content".
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  5. #75
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
    Don't take this the wrong way, but if you envy them, why don't you be them?
    If there's nothing you want to play in the game, why play the game?

    Not trying to take a dig, just curious what keeps you around if by your own admittance, there isn't really anything gameplay wise.
    They already said they want to prog Ultimate, which also meant farming savage for probably several months.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    Dunno if you have read my post, but Im progging new ultimate, so I dedicated myself into, that I cant. So Im helping other people clear old savages and other content etc just to fill that void. Maybe its not about "enough of content", but more of "how fun is the new content".
    I guess I can see that. So for you it's essentially paying a sub to prog the new ultimate alone, were you not to find anything else to do.

    Edit: how tf did I not notice I responded to myself
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    Last edited by Iyrnthota; 02-17-2023 at 01:21 AM.

  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    They already said they want to prog Ultimate, which also meant farming savage for probably several months.
    Nah, my savage farm is already done, even tho Im always helping friends with their prog. Have all savage pieces for all my jobs. Weekly tome cap is the problem now. Yoshida, pls, 900 tomes a week in catchup patch for the love of god.
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  8. #78
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    I guess my question is, why not play other games between prog nights then?



    There's nothing stopping you from taking smaller breaks. That's what I'd be doing if I actually had time to do anything right now. School and work are taking the majority of my free time, I haven't had time to even open any games I've bought since like, Sept of last year....
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  9. #79
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    It was fairly mediocre, nothing particularly stood out and nothing was abjectly terrible. Game's still fine. I stopped trying to expect excellence and a masterpiece and just go with the flow. It's otherwise a solid game that I can enjoy.
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  10. #80
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    I've always thought the way resources are spent on this game is weird or wrong. There isn't much of a push for content that can keep people engaged week by week, but there's a substantial amount of one-time content that either can't be repeated or is unrewarding for repeating.
    Agreed. Even something super ultra basic like a change to the rewards for repeating certain daily roulettes or specific duties would go a long way in giving me a reason to play the game after doing my dailies. If trial roulette for example, just gave banger rewards every time I ran it, then I'd just sit around running it constantly and having a blast. Or if they simply uncapped the weekly tomes and let their players with a lot of time actually grind out tomestone gear for their alt jobs. I don't even think SE needs to reinvent the wheel or put out actual new shit half the time; they could just tweak the incentives on systems we already have and that alone would give people a desire to play the same old systems again but for rewards that make it feel worthwhile.

    If anyone's reading this and thinking that players should find content rewarding in its own right, that's great if you live in like a fantasy land or something, but if you want your game's limited amount of content to have a replay factor then you've gotta give people a reason to go and do it again. Saying this as someone who used to just spam trial roulette for fun and regularly queues shit like ivalice for no reason other than sheer enjoyment, but has stopped lately: after a while, the novelty just wears thin. Like, some of the queues for current content are super long waits because the trial roulette skews hard for ARR and there's no reason to run it more than once a day. Imagine if there were a reward to spam it though. Everyone's queue times would improve, and people who just want to kill monsters and get rewarded would have that. It's so basic. But to Square, you're either a salaryman with a single hour of free time to spare, or you're an Ultimate raiding placard clicking poopsocker. They're terrified of creating content that's engaging and tempting to spam ad nauseam. Even when people are literally begging for it. Is this really a big ask? To just make existing content more rewarding to make people want to replay it? Hell, just recycle a moogle tomestone event so half your players don't leave. "Oh I don't mind if they take a break" okay but your existing players mind when their friends lists evaporate due to your inability to keep people interested, so maybe do it for us, idk. Do something. Earn that monthly sub.

    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    The best solution for housing would be to refund most of the gil price when you relinquish a plot, not just when it's auto-demolished. You still don't profit in any way and it can't be abused, but it might make players feel less like they "lose out" by taking breaks.
    Additionally it would give more incentive for players to relinquish plots they're no longer using, because they'd be mostly refunded. Which would result in more available plots.
    The gil isn't quite the issue so much as the scarcity; once you lose a home, odds are you will never ever get another one again if you're on a world that's decently populated. For example, none of the people I know who stay subbed solely for their house are out here like "if my home gets demolished, that's 20mil down the drain!"; they're more worried about the fact that getting another medium on balmung is basically impossible for the foreseeable future.
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    Last edited by Avoidy; 02-17-2023 at 01:39 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshida-san
    Let's consider another theoretical mod: one that displays your character entirely naked.

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