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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    Apologies for double post, but it's new-post-worthy :>

    So to kind of follow up my realization that this image is basically a bald version of my miqo'te, I decided to do a little test to see how-


    YEEEIIIUUGH!!~~


    NOPE NUH-UH GROSS GROSS GROSS!

    And then I decided to draw how the male and female hrothgar SHOULD compare.

    I used the roe-female as a base, and gave her more curves from there.
    I used the femroe hand-on-hip /cpose to match the hrothgar's pose. I didn't draw the hunch (because I'm bad at drawing hunches, foreshortening is hard ok?), but I would really like for the female hrothgar to have a few hunched /cposes to allow a bestial feel. (I would like to headcanon the Lost female hrothgars as queens who failed and lost their drones, or entirely rogue female hrothgars, so they would be a bit more feral and scary than the helion females, who could be more regal.)

    I kind of want to draw the 4 face types and some "hair"styles now '3' (I really do like the idea that the females don't naturally grow hair/manes like the males do, but since hairstyles are a major way of character customization in games they DO have to have something to replace it, and I don't think there's anything else that our human brains could pay attention to that isn't at least an approximation of hair, so headdresses, and veils it is! Like I scratched onto the picture, the hairstyles that we earn can be considered wigs for fairness sake.)
    I felt the need to bring this post back up. This was made by @Roda and perfectly shows why a Mithra would look bad as a counterpart to Hrothgar, while a female Hrothgar that looks more like an appropriate counterpart to the males fits better. And I just love this post too much to have it buried in the thread. <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pip_Chick View Post
    I felt the need to bring this post back up. This was made by @Roda and perfectly shows why a Mithra would look bad as a counterpart to Hrothgar, while a female Hrothgar that looks more like an appropriate counterpart to the males fits better. And I just love this post too much to have it buried in the thread. <3
    This is why it's important to have stuff match their opposite. Races shouldn't look similar to one another, otherwise what's the point? Just make a Hyur, grab ear glamours and be done with it.

    Stuff should match their opposite. Even Au Ra who have a high level of dimorphism match their counterpart. Why wouldn't Hrothgar women look large and have a proper animalistic set of traits?

    Sorry but... you want Mithra? Go play Miqo'te. Oh wait, she is a Miqo'te, isn't she? Hmm... perhaps she's suffered a mild case of amnesia? Or perhaps Mirror Image Agnosia? Whichever the case, the love for Mithra has been noted, but this is hardly the thread for it. Though I'm sure they know this. I wonder, why can't these people just leave others well enough alone? We already have enough trouble as it is. You don't see Hrothgar going into Miqo'te threads and post garbage.

    Had she said "Galka", I'd be way more receptive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    This is why it's important to have stuff match their opposite. Races shouldn't look similar to one another, otherwise what's the point? Just make a Hyur, grab ear glamours and be done with it.

    Stuff should match their opposite. Even Au Ra who have a high level of dimorphism match their counterpart. Why wouldn't Hrothgar women look large and have a proper animalistic set of traits?

    Sorry but... you want Mithra? Go play Miqo'te. Oh wait, she is a Miqo'te, isn't she? Hmm... perhaps she's suffered a mild case of amnesia? Or perhaps Mirror Image Agnosia? Whichever the case, the love for Mithra has been noted, but this is hardly the thread for it. Though I'm sure they know this. I wonder, why can't these people just leave others well enough alone? We already have enough trouble as it is. You don't see Hrothgar going into Miqo'te threads and post garbage.

    Had she said "Galka", I'd be way more receptive.
    Galka were great and I am kind of sad that they took away the tails when recreating them for FFXIV, they were also male only because God forbid we have buff women, no, it's much better to make them reincarnate from thin air and come back! (my sarcasm is showing). Female Roegadin were a great addition, just wish they had the option to be much bigger like the males!

    As for the Mithra, I will repeat myself, but we already have Miquo'te who are quite literally Mithra but redesigned for XIV. They do NOT match Hrothgar in the slightest and would make that annoying and tired meme of a big beastly man and not-so-beastly woman.
    Just make Female Hrothgar to be a good counterpart to Male Hrothgar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    This is why it's important to have stuff match their opposite. Races shouldn't look similar to one another, otherwise what's the point? Just make a Hyur, grab ear glamours and be done with it.

    Stuff should match their opposite. Even Au Ra who have a high level of dimorphism match their counterpart. Why wouldn't Hrothgar women look large and have a proper animalistic set of traits?

    Sorry but... you want Mithra? Go play Miqo'te. Oh wait, she is a Miqo'te, isn't she? Hmm... perhaps she's suffered a mild case of amnesia? Or perhaps Mirror Image Agnosia? Whichever the case, the love for Mithra has been noted, but this is hardly the thread for it. Though I'm sure they know this. I wonder, why can't these people just leave others well enough alone? We already have enough trouble as it is. You don't see Hrothgar going into Miqo'te threads and post garbage.

    Had she said "Galka", I'd be way more receptive.
    I can state my opinion and what id like all I want. Dont like it TOO BAD. You dont own this thread. You are just a couple of guys on a forum of many.

    So again, devs please make the female hroth like mithras from ffxi. It would be a good addition like how you guys made au ras. All the races dont have to have both genders be exact same or near the same size. People would play it guaranteed. The nostalgia of ffxi would be immense. What really is the downside to it? Peoppe asking for big buff ladies when the other race like it is super unpopular and the male hroth aren’t exactly popular either. Instead of listening to people who want something most wouldn’t play instead make something lots would enjoy, I would 100% make one day 1.
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    Bro shut the f**k up. The whole point of Hroths is to be a beast-like race. It's meant to appeal to a different demographic that other races don't, popularity be damned. Making fem-Hroths like Mithras defeats the entire point of Hrothgar as a playable race. NO ONE who actually plays Hroth wants fem-Hroths just to be Miqo'te, but slightly different. It would be such a f**king waste if they did that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroInfinity View Post
    Bro shut the f**k up. The whole point of Hroths is to be a beast-like race. It's meant to appeal to a different demographic that other races don't, popularity be damned. Making fem-Hroths like Mithras defeats the entire point of Hrothgar as a playable race. NO ONE who actually plays Hroth wants fem-Hroths just to be Miqo'te, but slightly different. It would be such a f**king waste if they did that.
    100% this! Also, it is better if you just ignore that guy, it is very clear that they are here to make people angry. Nothing better on TV I guess. And thank you for the support!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyxs View Post
    I can state my opinion and what id like all I want. Dont like it TOO BAD. You dont own this thread. You are just a couple of guys on a forum of many.

    So again, devs please make the female hroth like mithras from ffxi. It would be a good addition like how you guys made au ras. All the races dont have to have both genders be exact same or near the same size. People would play it guaranteed. The nostalgia of ffxi would be immense. What really is the downside to it? Peoppe asking for big buff ladies when the other race like it is super unpopular and the male hroth aren’t exactly popular either. Instead of listening to people who want something most wouldn’t play instead make something lots would enjoy, I would 100% make one day 1.
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyxs View Post
    I can state my opinion and what id like all I want. Dont like it TOO BAD. You dont own this thread. You are just a couple of guys on a forum of many.

    So again, devs please make the female hroth like mithras from ffxi. It would be a good addition like how you guys made au ras. All the races dont have to have both genders be exact same or near the same size. People would play it guaranteed. The nostalgia of ffxi would be immense. What really is the downside to it? Peoppe asking for big buff ladies when the other race like it is super unpopular and the male hroth aren’t exactly popular either. Instead of listening to people who want something most wouldn’t play instead make something lots would enjoy, I would 100% make one day 1.
    No, you're right. I don't own this thread.

    Just the sheer amount of people asking for stuff like kkron's art and calling you out sure do.

    Here's a protip. You love Mithra so much? Go play FF11 ^^

    <3

    Literally nobody in their right mind wants another Miqo'te. Sorry honey, but your "opinion" is hot garbage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyxs View Post
    I can state my opinion and what id like all I want.
    This is true and Correct.
    I also have an Opinion.....making FemHroths into Mithra, is the dumbest thing they can do, and it goes against the entire point and Philosophy of the Hrothgar's Design, and Beast Races in General.
    You are also technically already playing a Mithra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyxs View Post
    I can state my opinion and what id like all I want. Dont like it TOO BAD. You dont own this thread. You are just a couple of guys on a forum of many.

    So again, devs please make the female hroth like mithras from ffxi. It would be a good addition like how you guys made au ras. All the races dont have to have both genders be exact same or near the same size. People would play it guaranteed. The nostalgia of ffxi would be immense. What really is the downside to it? Peoppe asking for big buff ladies when the other race like it is super unpopular and the male hroth aren’t exactly popular either. Instead of listening to people who want something most wouldn’t play instead make something lots would enjoy, I would 100% make one day 1.
    Wh.... we already HAVE mithras. They're miqo'te. The original 5 races are the EXACT SAME as what they are in XI, the only actual difference is that roes don't have tails like the galkas do but if you slapped some tails on them there would be no actual difference. What are you even going on about?? Like, not even trolling, we literally have the XI races already playable here, so please, enlighten me on how miqo and mithra aren't the same.
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