4.35 vs 6.35

[Kranel_San]

Remembering the bygone days when we indeed had a patch drop with a Deep Dungeon and an entire Relic Zone at once. Well, the latter came in 4.36 if we want to get technical but even so it was hardly a long wait. (Stormblood even released a relic zone in 4.25, can you imagine?)

And now we are in Endwalker.

Now, even with an extended patch cycle such things are impossible, and what we know is coming so far just feels so uninspired. Heaven on High and Palace of the Dead at least had something unique to them. But sure let’s rerelease more Allag/Crystal Tower stuff as if the game wasn’t full to the brim with it.

And, unlike the previous Relic Questlines and associated zones, nobody is doing Criterion. I can only hazard a guess as to why.

You realize the resources that usually make up the Relic zone went in this expansion to the Island sanctuary and V&C Dungeon. Right?

[aveyond-dreams]

You realize the resources that usually make up the Relic zone went in this expansion to the Island sanctuary and V&C Dungeon. Right?

And what a decision that was indeed. You'll forgive me if I'm not sympathetic to the cause of an Island where all you do is click things as opposed to repeatable battle content that doesn't die within days of it launching.

[Hurlstone]

He feels threatened there are other people making more threads than him...so now he is panic posting.

Yeah, this is sloppy work from them for sure. Notice they seem to be replying a little more too.

And what a decision that was indeed. You'll forgive me if I'm not sympathetic to the cause of an Island where all you do is click things as opposed to repeatable battle content that doesn't die within days of it launching.

I like Island Sanctuary! Its a nice chill piece of content that I hope they keep adding too. Sorry if you dislike it but, you know, not everyone will click with everything added in the game. You dislike this? Some people disliked past relic zones. I dislike PVP but it would be rather pathetic if I threw a tantrum whenever they added to that part of the game. Theres constructive criticism sure, and thats always important.. but what you post is sadly rarely that I am afraid to say.

[Avatre]

Yeah, this is sloppy work from them for sure. Notice they seem to be replying a little more too.

It's still only 1-2 times after their initial post the vast majority of the time. They are so uninvested in their own trolling that they are stupid easy to spot and reportable for trying to incite people to flame wars.

[CStrife912]

It's still only 1-2 times after their initial post the vast majority of the time. They are so uninvested in their own trolling that they are stupid easy to spot and reportable for trying to incite people to flame wars.

Well usually with Aveyond is he communicates with someone showing a lick of a similar opinion to his own...its a rather sad existence honestly. Not sure why they can't just be permabanned cause they show no sign of being constructive...its his way or the highway.

[dspguy]

And what a decision that was indeed. You'll forgive me if I'm not sympathetic to the cause of an Island where all you do is click things as opposed to repeatable battle content that doesn't die within days of it launching.

Any MMO is just a sequence of mashing buttons, clicking things, etc. This is just mashing buttons with a purpose different than the previous patches filled with mashing buttons and clicking things.

[Deveryn]

Any MMO is just a sequence of mashing buttons, clicking things, etc. This is just mashing buttons with a purpose different than the previous patches filled with mashing buttons and clicking things.

Yep. The loporrits are a metaphor for MMO devs, constantly offering us new carrots

[Eorzean_username]

You realize the resources that usually make up the Relic zone went in this expansion to the Island sanctuary and V&C Dungeon. Right?

This is a bizarre argument, even if it's accurate.

The Island is not battle content, and frankly, barely counts as content at all. It's like WOW Garrisons but 10 years late, and way more lifeless. Mostly just a browser game.

V&C is some of the least relevant content that I've ever encountered. If this was some sort of massive resource-sink, why didn't they make it actually have a purpose, rather than being one-and-done checklist content? At least there was motivation and engagement with grinding Exploratory Zones into the ground.

If SE really has to trade out content like Exploratory Zones in order to be able to make Facebook Island, I have serious questions about both the wisdom of their management, and the resource pipelines that they're allocating. This should not be an either/or situation.

[CStrife912]

This is a bizarre argument, even if it's accurate.

The Island is not battle content, and frankly, barely counts as content at all. It's like WOW Garrisons but 10 years late, and way more lifeless. Mostly just a browser game.

V&C is some of the least relevant content that I've ever encountered. If this was some sort of massive resource-sink, why didn't they make it actually have a purpose, rather than being one-and-done checklist content? At least there was motivation and engagement with grinding Exploratory Zones into the ground.

If SE really has to trade out content like Exploratory Zones in order to be able to make Facebook Island, I have serious questions about both the wisdom of their management, and the resource pipelines that they're allocating. This should not be an either/or situation.

You are right about the either or situation however they do have a limited budget and you have to remember they are working on the visual upgrade for 7.0 on top of whatever they have unannounced. That might mean they are allocating more elsewhere we don't know their allocations but compared to any other MMO we are always eating healthy. I do agree that V&C needs a heavy work on, however it was a testing ground for them to learn and improve on. Island sanctuary while a bit empty currently is getting an expansion in 6.4 and its constantly being updated beyond that into 7.X and so on...granted that content isn't completely for me I know it caters to a mass amount of casual players that would eat that up big time.

[Kyrj]

You realize the resources that usually make up the Relic zone went in this expansion to the Island sanctuary and V&C Dungeon. Right?

That's what they have to show for scrapping relic zones? Ouch....