4.35 vs 6.35

**caffe_macchiato** · 02-07-2023 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by DiaDeem

Hmm, I wonder why the devs don't bother with this forum...

oh, right

Sure, that's probably right. But how will you feel in a few months when the game is still in the same place it is now? How much more of this will you take before you start asking questions, like "is my sub worth it?" and "am I still having as much fun as I used to?" What do you get from dismissing his argument when everything he's saying has a pretty good point? FFXIV is ten years old. Do you think 4.0 and 6.0 are even in the same league?

Aveyond might be cancelled, but there will be millions of others who ask the same questions once the content dries up.

**Poporito_Popoto** · 02-07-2023 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

Sure, that's probably right. But how will you feel in a few months when the game is still in the same place it is now?

I know I'll feel fine.

**DiaDeem** · 02-07-2023 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

Sure, that's probably right. But how will you feel in a few months when the game is still in the same place it is now? How much more of this will you take before you start asking questions, like "is my sub worth it?" and "am I still having as much fun as I used to?" What do you get from dismissing his argument when everything he's saying has a pretty good point? FFXIV is ten years old. Do you think 4.0 and 6.0 are even in the same league?

In the almost ten years I've been subbed, I haven't felt the need to unsub at all. Since you asked, I tried to think what would make me unsub, and it would be rather difficult. Maybe if they did the Sunsetting thing that Destiny 2 did and they made ARR/HW inaccessible for some reason? That may push me over the edge, or maybe... if they removed SCH? But I mean actually remove, not just rework or whatever. I'm honestly trying to think of something that would make me wanna quit my sub. I have issues, but not to make me quit.

I'll say: The thing I miss the most is the extra dungeons, but as they were... they wouldn't be very interesting to me anymore. Hard mode should make a return as the middle point between regular content and EX content. That would be a lot of fun. Two per patch? I'd love that. If it gets to a point where they give us one regular dungeon and one variant dungeon per patch, that would also be pretty cool. You may see me throw this around, since you made me think about it, but here's the thing: I don't know how resources are spread within Creative Business Unit III. Unlike some people, I'm not gonna pretend I know if Would-Be-Bozja II resources were used on Island Sanctuary because I have no way to prove that. I don't know what the team's pipeline looks like or how much the pandemic plus the development of XVI affected them. I suspect XIV's development will become smoother once XVI is done, but that's just speculation on my part because I just don't know. So I'm not gonna start demanding things like I have the slightest clue of how and what they're doing.

Funny story... last year I started posting around a bit about how Legacy Movement should have an option to disable the automatic camera, and they just implemented that in 6.3
Maybe I'm just too much of a patient person, but I believe they listen, and they try to make the best they can with what they have.

Obviously some players will be more frustrated than others, but the difference between someone like you and Aveyond, is that you didn't make a post stating how offensive it was for the Valentoine event to have a wood joke, and then expect to be taken seriously afterward. So pardon me if I've become a bit dismissive of the man after that.

I don't think all complaints are unjustified, and as far as the big issues are concerned, I think there's a conversation to be had about healer simplicity, but you know that's not what Aveyond is doing.

**Kranel_San** · 02-07-2023 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Remembering the bygone days when we indeed had a patch drop with a Deep Dungeon and an entire Relic Zone at once. Well, the latter came in 4.36 if we want to get technical but even so it was hardly a long wait. (Stormblood even released a relic zone in 4.25, can you imagine?)

And now we are in Endwalker.

Now, even with an extended patch cycle such things are impossible, and what we know is coming so far just feels so uninspired. Heaven on High and Palace of the Dead at least had something unique to them. But sure let’s rerelease more Allag/Crystal Tower stuff as if the game wasn’t full to the brim with it.

And, unlike the previous Relic Questlines and associated zones, nobody is doing Criterion. I can only hazard a guess as to why.

You realize the resources that usually make up the Relic zone went in this expansion to the Island sanctuary and V&C Dungeon. Right?

**aveyond-dreams** · 02-07-2023 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by Kranel_San

You realize the resources that usually make up the Relic zone went in this expansion to the Island sanctuary and V&C Dungeon. Right?

And what a decision that was indeed. You'll forgive me if I'm not sympathetic to the cause of an Island where all you do is click things as opposed to repeatable battle content that doesn't die within days of it launching.

**Hurlstone** · 02-07-2023 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Renalt

He feels threatened there are other people making more threads than him...so now he is panic posting.

Yeah, this is sloppy work from them for sure. Notice they seem to be replying a little more too.

Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

And what a decision that was indeed. You'll forgive me if I'm not sympathetic to the cause of an Island where all you do is click things as opposed to repeatable battle content that doesn't die within days of it launching.

I like Island Sanctuary! Its a nice chill piece of content that I hope they keep adding too. Sorry if you dislike it but, you know, not everyone will click with everything added in the game. You dislike this? Some people disliked past relic zones. I dislike PVP but it would be rather pathetic if I threw a tantrum whenever they added to that part of the game. Theres constructive criticism sure, and thats always important.. but what you post is sadly rarely that I am afraid to say.

**Avatre** · 02-07-2023 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by Hurlstone

Yeah, this is sloppy work from them for sure. Notice they seem to be replying a little more too.

It's still only 1-2 times after their initial post the vast majority of the time. They are so uninvested in their own trolling that they are stupid easy to spot and reportable for trying to incite people to flame wars.

**CStrife912** · 02-07-2023 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by Avatre

It's still only 1-2 times after their initial post the vast majority of the time. They are so uninvested in their own trolling that they are stupid easy to spot and reportable for trying to incite people to flame wars.

Well usually with Aveyond is he communicates with someone showing a lick of a similar opinion to his own...its a rather sad existence honestly. Not sure why they can't just be permabanned cause they show no sign of being constructive...its his way or the highway.

**dspguy** · 02-08-2023 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

And what a decision that was indeed. You'll forgive me if I'm not sympathetic to the cause of an Island where all you do is click things as opposed to repeatable battle content that doesn't die within days of it launching.

Any MMO is just a sequence of mashing buttons, clicking things, etc. This is just mashing buttons with a purpose different than the previous patches filled with mashing buttons and clicking things.

**Deveryn** · 02-08-2023 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by dspguy

Any MMO is just a sequence of mashing buttons, clicking things, etc. This is just mashing buttons with a purpose different than the previous patches filled with mashing buttons and clicking things.

Yep. The loporrits are a metaphor for MMO devs, constantly offering us new carrots

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