Thread: 4.35 vs 6.35

Originally Posted by Kranel_San

You realize the resources that usually make up the Relic zone went in this expansion to the Island sanctuary and V&C Dungeon. Right?

This is a bizarre argument, even if it's accurate.

The Island is not battle content, and frankly, barely counts as content at all. It's like WOW Garrisons but 10 years late, and way more lifeless. Mostly just a browser game.

V&C is some of the least relevant content that I've ever encountered. If this was some sort of massive resource-sink, why didn't they make it actually have a purpose, rather than being one-and-done checklist content? At least there was motivation and engagement with grinding Exploratory Zones into the ground.

If SE really has to trade out content like Exploratory Zones in order to be able to make Facebook Island, I have serious questions about both the wisdom of their management, and the resource pipelines that they're allocating. This should not be an either/or situation.

Originally Posted by Eorzean_username

This is a bizarre argument, even if it's accurate.

The Island is not battle content, and frankly, barely counts as content at all. It's like WOW Garrisons but 10 years late, and way more lifeless. Mostly just a browser game.

V&C is some of the least relevant content that I've ever encountered. If this was some sort of massive resource-sink, why didn't they make it actually have a purpose, rather than being one-and-done checklist content? At least there was motivation and engagement with grinding Exploratory Zones into the ground.

If SE really has to trade out content like Exploratory Zones in order to be able to make Facebook Island, I have serious questions about both the wisdom of their management, and the resource pipelines that they're allocating. This should not be an either/or situation.

You are right about the either or situation however they do have a limited budget and you have to remember they are working on the visual upgrade for 7.0 on top of whatever they have unannounced. That might mean they are allocating more elsewhere we don't know their allocations but compared to any other MMO we are always eating healthy. I do agree that V&C needs a heavy work on, however it was a testing ground for them to learn and improve on. Island sanctuary while a bit empty currently is getting an expansion in 6.4 and its constantly being updated beyond that into 7.X and so on...granted that content isn't completely for me I know it caters to a mass amount of casual players that would eat that up big time.

Originally Posted by Kranel_San

You realize the resources that usually make up the Relic zone went in this expansion to the Island sanctuary and V&C Dungeon. Right?

That's what they have to show for scrapping relic zones? Ouch....

Originally Posted by Kyrj

That's what they have to show for scrapping relic zones? Ouch....

People hated Bozja, called it boring, uninspired, brown.

Originally Posted by R041

People hate bits of a lot of things, better remove everything! We'll just have 50 hours text based visual novel and limited housing moving forward.

It looked brown and dull, but I wouldn't call it boring. The Critical Engagements are amazing, and I WISH we had that level of dedication in FATEs, but FATEs will continue to die and Yoshi they'll learn nothing. Just because something can be improved on, doesn't mean it should be scrapped altogether. Maybe learn and make it better for once?

XIV has a problem of often making systems with little return value, or they have some small problems that could be fixed but ignore it. So instead of resolving those, they just think players hate the whole thing and never spend any amount of time fixing it up.

They probably think we hate Portraits too, but fact is - It's so jank that most of us can't really use them effectively. So they'll go on thinking we don't want them and then pull dev time from it.

I found it boring, dull and very brown. I'd never be able to do a CE, so that was meaningless to me. I did enough to get my triad cards and left.

Eureka, on the other hand, was a much better experience. And much more colorful.

I'm not going to bother with portraits, so no loss for me.

Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

People hated Bozja, called it boring, uninspired, brown.

Not everyone did. Quite a lot of people consider it an improvement over Eureka and praised the additions and concepts it had. It just required better future-proofing and incentives, and though it added stuff it didn't stray too far from the usual mold we had seen before.

The brown is to be expected: it's a warzone in the middle of a Ground Zero. Do you expect warzones to be your average everyday Thavnairian rainbow?

People disliked a lot of things about a lot of content, it doesn't mean it was universally hated. Bozja had at least far better reception on release than Eureka Anemos did. And only one thing Bozja as a whole had was about as reviled as Pagos was, and that was the decision to make CLL mandatory for the relic progression.

Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Not everyone did. Quite a lot of people consider it an improvement over Eureka and praised the additions and concepts it had. It just required better future-proofing and incentives, and though it added stuff it didn't stray too far from the usual mold we had seen before.

The brown is to be expected: it's a warzone in the middle of a Ground Zero. Do you expect warzones to be your average everyday Thavnairian rainbow?

People disliked a lot of things about a lot of content, it doesn't mean it was universally hated. Bozja had at least far better reception on release than Eureka Anemos did. And only one thing Bozja as a whole had was about as reviled as Pagos was, and that was the decision to make CLL mandatory for the relic progression.

Oh I'm aware, it's more the fact that people forget how much negative things are said about content here. Later they only remember the good, not the bad.



I didn't hate bozja, I thought it was fine. I didn't hate eureka either.