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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johners View Post
    Square Enix should probably do something about the fact one of the popular plugins, Gshade, now includes malware.

    pfft

    "Anything could be in the payload, you were responsible for triggering it", yeah good luck holding that one in court xD

    Pretty sure the EU has a few things to say about that. *cough* GDPR *cough*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    pfft

    "Anything could be in the payload, you were responsible for triggering it", yeah good luck holding that one in court xD

    Pretty sure the EU has a few things to say about that. *cough* GDPR *cough*
    GDPR is user data protection and has nothing to do with malicious software directly. Also downloading and running an app just to notice it does not do what you expect it to do isn't something any legal system will care about. If it caused damages then depending on app EULA/whatever terms and country you and the app legal representative are you may have some case but that's usually not the case as even Microsoft gives you Windows "as is" and doesn't take any responsibility if the software causes damages or whatever for you and if it does not break country law it's fine.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharknado View Post
    GDPR is user data protection and has nothing to do with malicious software directly. Also downloading and running an app just to notice it does not do what you expect it to do isn't something any legal system will care about. If it caused damages then depending on app EULA/whatever terms and country you and the app legal representative are you may have some case but that's usually not the case as even Microsoft gives you Windows "as is" and doesn't take any responsibility if the software causes damages or whatever for you and if it does not break country law it's fine.
    Yeah, that I know. It's meant to be about data protection. However, if the malware in question collects data, then yeah it'd be a violation. Though... probably not for the malware itself, but for the collection/storage of data.

    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    Mhhh, maybe "NotNite" misunderstood Marot's statement. It seems, that "NotNite" executed a functionality, which was not intended to be used. Because it's in an Alpha state or whatever. Gshade noticed it, that this functionallity was used and it killed itself. And if Gshade kills itself then it also terminates the application, which uses Gshade.

    And yes, Marot's statements are not helpful in such a situation. Because i can smell his arrogance. And for non software developers it still sounds very cryptic and the people have no clue what is going on. I also have to guess, what Marot propably meant.
    x_x why be condescending in the first place, just explain to people "No, something happened and our tool shut down because of it". It's not hard, doesn't take any more of his time than it does to be a jerk...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Yeah, that I know. It's meant to be about data protection. However, if the malware in question collects data, then yeah it'd be a violation. Though... probably not for the malware itself, but for the collection/storage of data.



    x_x why be condescending in the first place, just explain to people "No, something happened and our tool shut down because of it". It's not hard, doesn't take any more of his time than it does to be a jerk...


    Just to add, yeah this was intentional LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post


    Just to add, yeah this was intentional LMAO
    nothing is sacred anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    Just to add, yeah this was intentional LMAO
    According to twitter, it was to mess with one person in specific?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    According to twitter, it was to mess with one person in specific?
    the moment you break trust, its all over
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    SEGA uses anti-cheat for PSO2 as the entire economy is integrated into the game. Like it's cash shop and buy-in currency. All it takes is a 3rd party exploit and they could lose a lot of revenue quickly. Especially being F2P where they live on purchased cosmetics and premium passes. There isn't a lot of incentive for XIV because Mogstation exists. These little things like overlays in the game like reading the network numbers so you can see party damage, zoom, to some measly chat bubble does not really cheat other players experiences. Nor will it cost them revenue, so the added cost and maintenance doesn't align when they can just ban people at-will. Apparently the numbers must seem to align that if there is enough wrist-slapping, people change their ways like on the world race stage.

    People who do things that are beyond shady like packet manipulation are very much at-risk cause they can just sniff incoming traffic, make network rules, and deceive actions if they'd like around that.


    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post


    Just to add, yeah this was intentional LMAO
    Petty child, and it's the actual gshade users that suffer.
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