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    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Please do tell us exactly what the TC meant and how that actually conforms to what you mean now.

    From what I can see, the TC specifically mentioned insulting and mocking people, specifically in making jokes, not criticising their skill or performance.

    Several people have now turned this topic towards receiving backlash from giving constructive criticism, which might be what you want to talk about, but it's not what the TC was talking about. They're two entirely different things, with different arguments. So don't conflate them with comments like: "This isn’t about not being able to be racist, homophonic or sexist like the one poster suggest. That’s a common claim meant to dismiss used by the exact community OP is referring to." when that's exactly what it is about, in an attempt to discredit the counterargument for something completely unrelated.
    The premise is still the same. You can’t say anything to anyone that takes them out of their safe space. Anything that criticizes whether it’s legitimate or an obvious joke. People crack like an egg and then get out of whack about anything non positive.

    As far as the OP, they’re right. You can’t even joke anymore. Bobby said it. I said it over a year ago in the forums. Offence is taken, not given.

    If you’re unhappy with something; change it. If you can’t change it; then change your attitude.

    The perpetually offended may be creating an issue that originally wasn’t there to begin with
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    The perpetually offended may be creating an issue that originally wasn’t there to begin with
    Conversely, the perpetually offending may be getting their just reward for years of verbal abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    The premise is still the same. You can’t say anything to anyone that takes them out of their safe space. Anything that criticizes whether it’s legitimate or an obvious joke. People crack like an egg and then get out of whack about anything non positive.

    As far as the OP, they’re right. You can’t even joke anymore. Bobby said it. I said it over a year ago in the forums. Offence is taken, not taken.

    If you’re unhappy with something; change it. If you can’t change it; then change your attitude.

    The perpetually offended may be creating an issue that originally wasn’t there to begin with
    There's a world of difference between taking offence at someone trying to help you with constructive criticism, and taking offence at a blatantly racist joke.

    The fact is, if people don't like what you're saying, they're allowed to disagree with you.
    All of this "you can't say anything anymore" bullshit is actually a thinly veiled attempt to censor people who disagree with backwards views. It's telling 'the woke' to shut up and put up with bigotry.

    Meanwhile players who get constructive criticism for their performance, and take it badly, are likely that way because they've become used to other players being aggressive and judgemental. As I said, these are actually entirely opposite issues. Players get defensive about their performance because of aggressive, highly competitive players who try to police everything.
    They shouldn't get defensive about constructive criticism, but they shouldn't have to get defensive either.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 02-06-2023 at 02:03 AM.

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    Player Nyxs's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    There's a world of difference between taking offence at someone trying to help you with constructive criticism, and taking offence at a blatantly racist joke.

    The fact is, if people don't like what you're saying, they're allowed to disagree with you.
    All of this "you can't say anything anymore" bullshit is actually a thinly veiled attempt to censor people who disagree with backwards views. It's telling 'the woke' to shut up and put up with bigotry.

    Meanwhile players who get constructive criticism for their performance, and take it badly, are likely that way because they've become used to other players being aggressive and judgemental. As I said, these are actually entirely opposite issues. Players get defensive about their performance because of aggressive, highly competitive players who try to police everything.
    They shouldn't get defensive about constructive criticism, but they shouldn't have to get defensive either.
    Nah people are snowflakes if constructive criticism upsets them that much. Also weird you say people are policing performance and you are here trying to police how people talk. You,nor anyone can control what people say so no point in trying.Perhaps try not being offended at every little thing. Shrug it off and move on. Most people in life you will have limited interactions anyways.
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    Last edited by Nyxs; 02-06-2023 at 02:21 AM.