7.0 Poster Class

[Raim]

I'd like it to be Corsair, or whatever new name they might give it. Would be exciting to have the trailer cut to the WoL at the bow of their own ship, navigating to the new world (Or Meracydia). And a scene change to them using their saber to cut through vines and such.

[MikkoAkure]

CNJ and WHM share/shared some elements, mostly from the nature aspect, like stone/wind themed spells, Stoneskin and Stone for example, the first of which was removed but is still used by random NPCs. Archer and BRD shares traits with, well, BRD and Ranger. Warrior has Viking-like traits and abilities, all while wielding a giant axe. I could go on, but I think my point has been made. They've combined a lot of past FF jobs into the ones we have now in FF XIV as hybrids of sorts. I'm not opposed to them branching out though. I'm just calling it as I see it.

To add onto this, Yoshi-P has already said that any future jobs will likely not come from the FF catalog of jobs and be completely new.

Job names are especially tough. After all, there’s no point if a job is similar to its namesake in name only; its gameplay experience needs to match their pre-established design too. At this point, I’m thinking we have no choice but to come up with brand new jobs that haven’t appeared in the FF series before.

As long as new game elements aren’t being introduced, new jobs are designed to fulfill a battle role that can already be filled by an existing job. That said, we can’t release a superior version of a certain job, and a new job that offers the same experience as an existing one would defeat the purpose of adding a new job. In that sense, it’s very difficult to come up with a new job.

Geomancer is already Conjurer from both a gameplay and a lore point of view while also getting tied as a parallel to Astrologian. I don't expect a healer to come out in 7.0 considering they already went through an effort to sort out the 3 we had before to make room for a 4th.


It would be nice to add a scouting job since there's only 1 that uses that gear and that would round us out to 2 striking, 2 maiming, and 2 scouting DoW. Beyond that, I wouldn't have a guess. Maybe a prestige version of BLU that's balanced for group play that's unlocked if you complete all the BLU content.

Or maybe if we go to the New World, BLU is the poster class itself anyway.

[Seraphor]

To add onto this, Yoshi-P has already said that any future jobs will likely not come from the FF catalog of jobs and be completely new.




Geomancer is already Conjurer from both a gameplay and a lore point of view while also getting tied as a parallel to Astrologian. I don't expect a healer to come out in 7.0 considering they already went through an effort to sort out the 3 we had before to make room for a 4th.


It would be nice to add a scouting job since there's only 1 that uses that gear and that would round us out to 2 striking, 2 maiming, and 2 scouting DoW. Beyond that, I wouldn't have a guess. Maybe a prestige version of BLU that's balanced for group play that's unlocked if you complete all the BLU content.

Or maybe if we go to the New World, BLU is the poster class itself anyway.

GEO wouldn't need to be too similar to CNJ or AST if it was a Magical DPS Job rather than a healer. Which is how it should be anyway, more in line with Yanxian Geomancy, and with a focus on ground effects and positional based mechanics, using Wind and Water elemental spells. We have yet to have any serious Water spell representation outside of BLU.
An alternative that would carry over many of the same themes and aesthetics could be Onmyoji.

BLU as a regular job being our "new" job would also be hugely disappointing. We expect a new job, not a recycled job.

But I agree that a Scouting job is most likely.

[VerdeLuck]

Whatever it is, I'm hoping for a scouting job that is a reverse red mage. It does melee attacks to build up a gauge so it can do powerful casting abilities as its burst.

isn't that just Ninja? A scouting job that is melee, but goes into ranged.

[RyuDragnier]

isn't that just Ninja? A scouting job that is melee, but goes into ranged.

The difference is Ninja constantly has access to their Mudras for magic range. This one would have no magic range until the burst.

[MikkoAkure]

GEO wouldn't need to be too similar to CNJ or AST if it was a Magical DPS Job rather than a healer. Which is how it should be anyway, more in line with Yanxian Geomancy, and with a focus on ground effects and positional based mechanics, using Wind and Water elemental spells. We have yet to have any serious Water spell representation outside of BLU.
An alternative that would carry over many of the same themes and aesthetics could be Onmyoji.

The geomancer we have in the game uses conjurer assets and the NPC even uses a CNJ wand. The lore book also says outright that geomancy is a combination of conjury and astromancy and there's a whole plot point that using Astrologian healing spells intertwines with geomancy. If they're not supposed to be a healer, or even if they are and they're introduced as a playable job, I'd imagine there would need to be some retconning in the AST questline considering the whole SB part was set up to show how it's the eastern version of AST.

Onmyojutsu is in the lore book as being the eastern version of thaumaturgy, where their magic is all about balancing umbral and astral magic exactly like a THM or BLM.


Considering we're probably not going to get any healers, probably not going to get anything from a previous FF, not going to get anything too similar as something else per the interview quotes I posted, and probably not getting a new pet job considering how those have been greatly diminished, we're not likely to get either of these.

[Elkanah]

My money is either on GNB being the poster class-- or Machinist/Dancer (just for front cover alone). Though ARR was technically BLM for the cover of the game (and cutscenes was WAR). MNK/SAM was the cutscene cover for Stormblood, and the actual cover was Zenos

[Seraphor]

The geomancer we have in the game uses conjurer assets and the NPC even uses a CNJ wand. The lore book also says outright that geomancy is a combination of conjury and astromancy and there's a whole plot point that using Astrologian healing spells intertwines with geomancy. If they're not supposed to be a healer, or even if they are and they're introduced as a playable job, I'd imagine there would need to be some retconning in the AST questline considering the whole SB part was set up to show how it's the eastern version of AST.

Onmyojutsu is in the lore book as being the eastern version of thaumaturgy, where their magic is all about balancing umbral and astral magic exactly like a THM or BLM.


Considering we're probably not going to get any healers, probably not going to get anything from a previous FF, not going to get anything too similar as something else per the interview quotes I posted, and probably not getting a new pet job considering how those have been greatly diminished, we're not likely to get either of these.

Again, why does everyone forget Swallows Compass? The Four Lords questline is much more impactful than the AST questlines in which Geo gets a small cameo role.
The Geomancer we have in the game uses a Bell for a weapon, and uses a whole host of offensive Water and Wind elemental spells. So many more assets were used here than the throw-away NPC in the AST questline that reuses stock assets like a CNJ wand and aero spell effects.

Chiseled into the great wall which cuts across the plains of Yanxia, between two of the Dairyu Moon Gates, is the visage of Ganen, the legendary hero who united Doma. The first king of the new kingdom was not only a military genius, but also the founder of geomancy, and so after his death this royal mausoleum became a holy place to which his disciples would make pilgrimage. Alas, following the imperial invasion, it was abandoned and fell into disrepair, and none can say for certain what dangers lie within. Regardless, if Soroban's rigorous training under Qitian Dasheng is to continue, you and your comrades must venture into these hallowed halls and obtain the tamate-bako of geomancy, an ancient relic with the power to manipulate time itself...

[Vahlnir]

Again, why does everyone forget Swallows Compass? The Four Lords questline is much more impactful than the AST questlines in which Geo gets a small cameo role.
The Geomancer we have in the game uses a Bell for a weapon, and uses a whole host of offensive Water and Wind elemental spells. So many more assets were used here than the throw-away NPC in the AST questline that reuses stock assets like a CNJ wand and aero spell effects.

Because, as a job, Geomancer has already been established. If they wanted to make it its own thing somehiow, I would not be opposed, but it's already here and established both from a lore and a gameplay perspective.

[Seraphor]

Because, as a job, Geomancer has already been established. If they wanted to make it its own thing somehiow, I would not be opposed, but it's already here.

That's Hingan geomancy that's featured in the AST questlines.
Ganen's is Yanxian geomancy.