Please bring back Kaiten

[Tint]

Kaiten will not come back.

It's too difficult to balance the job when the off-GCD damage ressource interacts with the GCD damage in such a way.

You have to make sure that Shinten spam is always stronger than Kaiten spam while at the same time Shinten spam is always weaker than using Kaiten in specific situations.

What that means is that when they have to increase SAMs dps they can't simply increase the potency of the combo finishers and be done with it because it could happen that Kaiten on the combo finisher would become stronger than using Shinten. So they have to increase the potency of Shinten. But they have to make sure that Shinten does not become Stronger than Kaiten on your 3-Sticker-Attack.
Plus they have backed themself into a corner when it comes to adding new skills.

So what could they do? Kaiten interacts only with that one other skill? Sounds like the button bloat they said they wanted to remove when they took Kaiten away.

The mistake was to remove Kaiten mid-expansion with nothing new to add to the gameplay for another 2 years, not that they removed Kaiten in general.

[Saraide]

I may be showing how little I understand about samurai but I think the better solution would have been to just remove shinten instead.

[Ransu]

There are plenty of these posts in the DPS forum.

P.S. Good riddance to Kaiten

Someone's bad at the game.

[Deveryn]

Someone's bad at the game.

Come find out.

I can always get better, but Kaiten will never come back at this rate.

[Coatl]

Kaiten will not come back.

It's too difficult to balance the job when the off-GCD damage ressource interacts with the GCD damage in such a way.

You have to make sure that Shinten spam is always stronger than Kaiten spam while at the same time Shinten spam is always weaker than using Kaiten in specific situations.

What that means is that when they have to increase SAMs dps they can't simply increase the potency of the combo finishers and be done with it because it could happen that Kaiten on the combo finisher would become stronger than using Shinten. So they have to increase the potency of Shinten. But they have to make sure that Shinten does not become Stronger than Kaiten on your 3-Sticker-Attack.
Plus they have backed themself into a corner when it comes to adding new skills.

So what could they do? Kaiten interacts only with that one other skill? Sounds like the button bloat they said they wanted to remove when they took Kaiten away.

The mistake was to remove Kaiten mid-expansion with nothing new to add to the gameplay for another 2 years, not that they removed Kaiten in general.

FF14 Community explaining why your DPS job can't have more than 1 button.

[Midareyukki]

Sigh, this is why you don't skip cutscenes people.

He is the deceased father of the current King of Doma.

And that King is currently very popular because he's pretty, and one of his shoulders looks like a delicious hot-cross bun, so of course people always want to see more of the man who fathered him. Probably in Echo flashbacks, I'm guessing.

Nah, that's Cyan.

[Luluna]

I am here just to say I keep reading this as Bring back Karen lol...

[Mr_Gyactus]

Please bring back Third Eye->Open Eyes->Merciful Eyes. Thats it, thats the post.

Fixed.
It was a good ability, it saved me from a lot of lazy healers.

FF14 Community explaining why your DPS job can't have more than 1 button.

Nani?!?
Ikishoten -> Ogi Namikiri x 2, Hissatsu senei
Meikyo Shisui -> Midare Setsugekka -> kaeshi Setsugekka) x 2
Shoa

not your average 1,1,1,1,1

[Derio]

It will come back in 7.0 as a trait. SAM got the dark arts treatment except they didnt get to keep the actual effect.

[SassyAssassin]

Sigh, this is why you don't skip cutscenes people.

He is the deceased father of the current King of Doma.

And that King is currently very popular because he's pretty, and one of his shoulders looks like a delicious hot-cross bun, so of course people always want to see more of the man who fathered him. Probably in Echo flashbacks, I'm guessing.

Well well well…in that case, tell Kaiten I said “/hairflip Hi”