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    Raim's Avatar
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    Raim Surion
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    People wont actually like instanced housing, it'll feel like second class housing compared to wards. It would be better if they just invested more into server infrastructure and over doubled the wards on NA/EU.
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    Veleda Haze
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    If only FC's are in wards and all individual players are in instanced housing then there is no hierarchy. Doubling the amount of wards still won't give us enough houses for every player to have one.

    We pay for a sub to a game that doesn't let us use one of it's main features unless we are lucky enough to win a lottery.
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    Corvus Valerius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    People wont actually like instanced housing, it'll feel like second class housing compared to wards. It would be better if they just invested more into server infrastructure and over doubled the wards on NA/EU.
    I can say with 100% certainty that you absolutely do not speak for me, or "people."
    If I could own and decorate an instanced large plot sans neighbors, I'd be perfectly content with that, and at most I would go for a ward plot when it became available. Giving people a shoebox to fall back on and calling that the equivalent of "a second class mansion" is a little disingenuous, don't you think?

    Like, aside from the sheer size of the interior, the difference between a large plot and a small plot is almost 200 decoration slots. Calling it more of a "status" thing than a "I want to be able to decorate this" thing is a bit reductive/cynical.

    Doubling the wards wouldn't really help SE's image problem, as well, that they deal with on a regular basis. I know wards are basically already ghost towns, but there would be empty small plots all over the place. You'd see endless "dead game" screenshots. It also probably just, wouldn't serve everyone who wants to own a plot of the size they want; which is a key point that instanced housing could address.
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    Last edited by Corvus_V; 01-30-2023 at 05:44 AM.
    yeah, i'll give him the wrap. but foist, i gotta wrap this FISH.

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    Veleda Haze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    I can say with 100% certainty that you absolutely do not speak for me, or "people."
    If I could own and decorate an instanced large plot sans neighbors, I'd be perfectly content with that, and at most I would go for a ward plot when it became available. Giving people a shoebox to fall back on and calling that the equivalent of "a second class mansion" is a little disingenuous, don't you think?
    I agree, personally I don't care about second class or anything I just want to own and design a house to create depth and individuality through artistic expression like every other good MMO
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    Random Fyre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Happy View Post
    I agree, personally I don't care about second class or anything I just want to own and design a house to create depth and individuality through artistic expression like every other good MMO
    If this were true, you would own a house by now as there are plenty of new servers with a plethora of houses STILL available.
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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by MINEHausMINE View Post
    If this were true, you would own a house by now as there are plenty of new servers with a plethora of houses STILL available.
    It's better to complain though than to use one of the solutions available
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    Zebra Rune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    It's better to complain though than to use one of the solutions available

    Because while it is a solution, it's a freaking terrible solution that shouldn't be something that players feel the need to resort to.
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    Carin Eri
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    Quote Originally Posted by MINEHausMINE View Post
    If this were true, you would own a house by now as there are plenty of new servers with a plethora of houses STILL available.
    I'd have to agree.

    I mean, is the issue that some are being really selective about specific plots? If so, I don't really understand that since, prior to new wards being added, you just had to throw bids at whatever plot happened to become available.

    I'll admit that I was lucky enough to get a (small) house exactly where I wanted one. Granted it's in (what discussion here indicates) is a less desirable location (The Goblet), but fact is I was the only person who bid on it.
    And of the three plots nearest my house one (a large plot) was claimed and the remaining two appear to have attracted no interest.

    Feel like I'm missing something here. Is the issue that these people that don't have a house will only bid for Medium or Large plots? Surely if someone is that desperate for a house they'd look for, and bid on, a small plot with zero bids against it?
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    Last edited by Carin-Eri; 01-31-2023 at 12:27 AM.

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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    I'd have to agree.

    I mean, is the issue that some are being really selective about specific plots? If so, I don't really understand that since, prior to new wards being added, you just had to throw bids at whatever plot happened to become available.

    I'll admit that I was lucky enough to get a (small) house exactly where I wanted one. Granted it's in (what discussion here indicates) is a less desirable location (The Goblet), but fact is I was the only person who bid on it.
    And of the three plots nearest my house one (a large plot) was claimed and the remaining two appear to have attracted no interest.

    Feel like I'm missing something here. Is the issue that these people that don't have a house will only bid for Medium or Large plots? Surely if someone is that desperate for a house they'd look for, and bid on, a small plot with zero bids against it?
    Some are even more picky than that. Someone who already owns a Large in Goblet has been vocal in general Discussion about not being able to move because her plot is so ugly.
    First world problems.

    If you want a house, a Small is sufficient. Anything more than that, and you're playing a game, one you're simply not always going to win.
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    Ayan Calvesse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    I'd have to agree.

    I mean, is the issue that some are being really selective about specific plots? If so, I don't really understand that since, prior to new wards being added, you just had to throw bids at whatever plot happened to become available.

    I'll admit that I was lucky enough to get a (small) house exactly where I wanted one. Granted it's in (what discussion here indicates) is a less desirable location (The Goblet), but fact is I was the only person who bid on it.
    And of the three plots nearest my house one (a large plot) was claimed and the remaining two appear to have attracted no interest.

    Feel like I'm missing something here. Is the issue that these people that don't have a house will only bid for Medium or Large plots? Surely if someone is that desperate for a house they'd look for, and bid on, a small plot with zero bids against it?
    Part of the problem is exactly this. Everyone wants the plum plot. So they face significant competition and when they lose its over a week before they know whats next and each time their odds are getting worse as the pool shrinks and so the competition for the same spot increases.

    My personal is a small - I grabbed whatever I saw and was lucky to win the click. I been trying to move to a med but no luck yet; but I will just keep trying.
    I have FC mates that keep losing on smalls and really seem to just want a house.

    It would be nice if the lotto system just allowed you to check "I do not care about the plot put me in for the best odds" and then let players walk away. Right now bid sniping highly favors those with lots of free time; especially with the FC/privates now competing for the same plots. a FC waits till the last hour and then nukes the lowest bidding plot.
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